XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.california   
      
   On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:12:26 -0700, K  wrote:   
      
   >billyquealy wrote:   
   >> On Jun 27, 3:33 pm, Dragonblaze  wrote:   
   >>> On Jun 27, 11:27 am, Fred  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> [snip]   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>> Eating meat in moderate amounts won't harm your health, either.  Meat   
   is   
   >>>>>>> an excellent source of protein, some minerals and other nutrients.   
   >>>>>> And you have to kill to get it   
   >>>>> Not a problem.   
   >>>>         Well, unless you're a psychopath, it is.   
   >>> Having to kill for your food does not make one a psychopath. We all   
   >>> kill living things to eat, vegans included. Unless you somehow manage   
   >>> to subsist on salt alone, everything you eat was once alive.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> and it comes laced with residues of growth   
   >>>>>> hormones and anti-biotics and red dyes that the butcher adds to make it   
   >>>>>> look good, and heaven knows what else.   
   >>>>> No, none of that is necessary, and quite a lot of meat doesn't contain   
   >>>>> any of that.   
   >>>>         Yeah it does. unless you buy organic meat, and how many people do?   
   >>> In the UK that is pretty common, with all the major retailers offering   
   >>> organic meat and produce.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> No thanks I'll never eat meat again.   
   >>>>> That's your choice.  However, most of your reasons for not eating it,   
   >>>>> particularly the slaughter of the animals, are specious.   
   >>>>         Humanist.  Caring people don't eat meat.   
   >>> Bollocks. Humanist means one who has studied the humanities.   
   >>>   
   >>> The only time caring comes to play in what you eat is when you make   
   >>> certain that your food had a good life and was killed humanely. Easy   
   >>> enough to do.   
   >>>   
   >>> Since hominids have adapted to meat-eating long before Homo Sapiens   
   >>> came along, I do not see any reason to alter my diet, especially when   
   >>> doing so would mean having to take artificial supplements as vegans   
   >>> have to do. That little fact alone reveals that a vegan diet is not an   
   >>> ideal diet for humans. An ideal diet for any species will not need any   
   >>> supplements, as the micronutrients are provided by the diet.   
   >> ______________________________   
   >> Garden of Eden (protection in balance) was destroyed by same selective   
   >> taking of knowledge   
   >> of good and evil,  reasons for eatting meat conveniently , then when   
   >> fruit of this action   
   >> without considering the ACT itself,fell from the tree, it led them to   
   >> be forced off the desolate land they   
   >> gathered and hunted to death, and later with their goats in tow,   
   >>   
   >> Like the meat-eatters in this blog they covered their shame with fig   
   >> leaves,   
   >   
   >Meat eaters are not ashamed of eating meat.   
      
       I've never encountered one who was. In contrast to that, I've seen   
   several veg*ns trying to deny the fact that they contribute to the   
   deaths of animals in most of the same ways that everyone else does.   
   I've also seen advocates of the misnomer dishonestly try to pretend   
   that decent animal welfare and the misnomer don't work against each   
   other.   
      
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