XPost: alt.anarchism, alt.politics.libertarian, alt.society.anarchy   
   From: ericg@nospammail.net   
      
   "Sidney Lambe"  wrote in message   
   news:slrnhqt48e.t51.sidneylambe@3f8s2dcr5.net...   
   > Frito Pendejo  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Bullseye! Another glorious victory for the Breatharyan   
   >> Liberation Front! This will teach them to eat while millions   
   >> starve! Free air, not free lunch! Long live the Karen Carpenter   
   >> Brigade!   
   >>   
   >   
   > The carny  (animal product) dietstyle is doing an enormous amount   
   > of damage to this planet. It takes about 3-1/4 acre per person   
   > just to grow the food necessary to feed the animals that provide   
   > those products. And this is with industrial agriculture that   
   > eventually destroys the land it uses. A lot more if the animals   
   > are grazing grasslands (natural or created by destroying forestlands).   
   >   
   It takes 5X the calories in feed to produce beef.   
   Nobody gets all their calories from beef, perhaps 10%. That means 50% extra   
   land.   
      
   > An herby can live off of 1/10 of an acre that can easily be tended   
   > with human power.   
   >   
   Science uses liters, kilos, and hectares.   
   A basic vegi diet using modern agriculture needs 0.1 hectare per person.   
      
   > It takes about 5000 gallons of freshwater to  produce a pound   
   > of cow flesh and about 5 gallons of freshwater to produce a   
   > pound of wheat. They both have about the same amount of   
   > protein. There are critical freshwater shortages all over   
   > the planet, more every year.   
   >   
   There is no set amount of water a cow need. Depends on feed crops.   
      
   All plants transpire at least 100X their dry mass in water.   
   This whole water argument is stupid, the majority of grains/legumes   
   grown get all the water they need from the sky gods.   
   If people are short of water, build some fucking dams, especially in Africa.   
      
   > The carny diet is extremely labor-energy intensive compared   
   > to the herby diet: It is highly inefficient.   
   >   
   Idiot.   
      
   > The corrupt psuedo-scientists, dwelling comfortably in the   
   > pockets of the multi-national corporations tell us we need   
   > animal products to be healthy. They lie.   
   >   
   Fucking paranoid green idiot. Take your meds.   
   Stop changing the newgroups, Troll Boy.   
      
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