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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.arabic   
      
   On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT), fanabba   
    wrote:   
      
   >On May 12, 1:36?pm, Goo wrote:   
      
   >> They probably can't. ?However, a good first effort would be to shut up   
   >> and stop nagging people.   
   >   
   >Shutting up has been tried. It has not worked.   
      
       Here are some of Goo's quotes from over the years, showing   
   that he agrees with vegans on pretty much everything:   
      
   "It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other   
   words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not   
   in self defense." - Goo   
      
   "Life "justifying" death is the stupidest goddamned thing you   
   ever wrote." - Goo   
      
   "NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo   
      
   "No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo   
      
   ""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of   
   their deaths" - Goo   
      
   "no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate   
   killing of the animals erases all of it." - Goo   
      
   "the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude   
   than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo   
      
   "There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting   
   to experience life" - Goo   
      
   "Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo   
      
   "one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is   
   the ethically superior choice." - Goo   
      
   "the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an   
   animal ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude   
   than . . . the moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing   
   at all" - Goo   
      
   "Humans could change it. They could change it by ending it." -   
   Goo   
      
   ""vegans" are interested in their influence on animals,   
   Fuckwit.  They want everyone to be "vegan", which would   
   mean no animals raised for food and other products. That's   
   an influence, whether you like it or not." - Goo   
      
   "People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans".   
   "Vegans" aren't interested in contributing to lives of any   
   quality for farm animals:  they don't want there to be farm   
   animals." - Goo   
      
   ""Veg*nism" certainly doesn't harm any living farm animals.   
   And if everyone adopted "veg*nism", no farm animals would   
   live in bad conditions." - Goo   
      
   "you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not   
   to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that   
   results from killing them." - Goo   
      
   "There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not   
   to exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Goo   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)