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   From: epsteinrob@yahoo.com   
      
   Dutch wrote:   
   > "niunian"  wrote   
   >   
   >>> What I am describing is practical and real. It is taught by sports   
   >>> psychologists and is the basis for most spiritual practices such as   
   >>> Yoga,   
   >>> meditation or Tai Chi. It centres around being aware/present in the   
   >>> moment,   
   >>> the here and now, being IN the process, not in the thinking mind,   
   >>> distracted   
   >>> worrying about the mechanics of the swing, the rough or miss-hitting   
   >>> or what   
   >>> your score is going to be or what others are thinking about you,   
   >>> etc.. As   
   >>> such it is a freeing experience, it the struggle of the ego/mind that   
   >>> drains   
   >>> your energy. The same applies in the rest of life. When I have been   
   >>> lucky   
   >>> enough to play golf or tennis or pool in this state I have always   
   >>> performed   
   >>> at the top of my abilities and ended up feeling refreshed and clear   
   >>> headed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Describe what you're talking about, so far you've been vague.   
   >>>   
   >>> And by the way, I love "everyday living" as much as any part of life.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I think the difference between you and me is, while you are talking   
   >> about how to "practice" Tai Chi, I'm talking about how to "fight" as a   
   >> Tai Chi master.   
   >   
   >   
   > Now you're resorting to semantics. "Practicing" as in an art or   
   > discipline like Tai Chi, Karate, Yoga, meditation, golf, driving a car,   
   > or medicine, means to perform that discipline.   
   >   
   >> In everyday practice, what you say sounds good enough,   
   >> but in actual combat, it's entirely another story. The problem I'm   
   >> trying to raise here is, you can't fight effortlessly in an actual   
   >> combat. In actual combat, there is no "flow", there is no "zone", and   
   >> there is no time to worry about "being".   
   >   
   >   
   > I am afraid you're missing the point badly. There is a flow to life's   
   > energy and there is a zone where one is in tune with that flow and there   
   > are many states where one is not. The zone is a well known phenomenon.   
   > And as I already clearly stated, there is no "worry" in being, no time   
   > either. Worrying is thinking and there is no thinking in the zone.   
   >   
   >   
   > There is only the battle and   
   >   
   >> the best strategy of winning the battle. If you keep trying to get the   
   >> right "feeling" during a game, it's likely you are going to lose the   
   >> game anyway.   
   >   
   >   
   > There's no "trying" in the zone, there's no winning or losing, there is   
   > only the process.   
      
   Yoda is in the zone.   
      
   Robert   
      
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