XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.zen, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy   
   XPost: alt.philosophy.zen   
   From: whoduh@murderispositiveaction.com   
      
   On Sun, 30 May 2010 23:34:31 -0400, halfawake    
   wrote:   
      
   >Dutch wrote:   
   >> "niunian"  wrote   
   >>   
   >>>> What I am describing is practical and real. It is taught by sports   
   >>>> psychologists and is the basis for most spiritual practices such as   
   >>>> Yoga,   
   >>>> meditation or Tai Chi. It centres around being aware/present in the   
   >>>> moment,   
   >>>> the here and now, being IN the process, not in the thinking mind,   
   >>>> distracted   
   >>>> worrying about the mechanics of the swing, the rough or miss-hitting   
   >>>> or what   
   >>>> your score is going to be or what others are thinking about you,   
   >>>> etc.. As   
   >>>> such it is a freeing experience, it the struggle of the ego/mind that   
   >>>> drains   
   >>>> your energy. The same applies in the rest of life. When I have been   
   >>>> lucky   
   >>>> enough to play golf or tennis or pool in this state I have always   
   >>>> performed   
   >>>> at the top of my abilities and ended up feeling refreshed and clear   
   >>>> headed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Describe what you're talking about, so far you've been vague.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And by the way, I love "everyday living" as much as any part of life.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> I think the difference between you and me is, while you are talking   
   >>> about how to "practice" Tai Chi, I'm talking about how to "fight" as a   
   >>> Tai Chi master.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Now you're resorting to semantics. "Practicing" as in an art or   
   >> discipline like Tai Chi, Karate, Yoga, meditation, golf, driving a car,   
   >> or medicine, means to perform that discipline.   
   >>   
   >>> In everyday practice, what you say sounds good enough,   
   >>> but in actual combat, it's entirely another story. The problem I'm   
   >>> trying to raise here is, you can't fight effortlessly in an actual   
   >>> combat. In actual combat, there is no "flow", there is no "zone", and   
   >>> there is no time to worry about "being".   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I am afraid you're missing the point badly. There is a flow to life's   
   >> energy and there is a zone where one is in tune with that flow and there   
   >> are many states where one is not. The zone is a well known phenomenon.   
   >> And as I already clearly stated, there is no "worry" in being, no time   
   >> either. Worrying is thinking and there is no thinking in the zone.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> There is only the battle and   
   >>   
   >>> the best strategy of winning the battle. If you keep trying to get the   
   >>> right "feeling" during a game, it's likely you are going to lose the   
   >>> game anyway.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> There's no "trying" in the zone, there's no winning or losing, there is   
   >> only the process.   
   >   
   >Yoda is in the zone.   
   >   
   >Robert   
   >   
   >= = = = = = = = = = =   
      
   the cube is in the zone.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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