XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.zen, alt.philosophy.zen   
   XPost: rec.boats   
   From: oxtail@nowhere.org   
      
   Fred C. Dobbs wrote:   
      
   > All it means is wanting the animals to exist.  If someone wants the   
   > animals that Fuckwit wishes to eat to exist, then Fuckwit says the   
   > person has "consideration for their lives".  If someone doesn't want   
   > those animals to exist, then Fuckwit shrieks they have "no consideration   
   > for their lives", and he berates them for not wanting the animals to   
   > exist.   
      
      
   He might not be expressing it convincingly,   
   but he appears to be sincere and   
   the gist of what he is trying say is LoL   
   that has support of several philosophers.   
      
     "The Logic of the Larder""(LL): We do animals a favor   
     by purchasing meat, eggs, and milk, for if we did not   
     purchase these products, fewer animals would exist (Stephen, 1896).   
     LL results from the common notion that the supply of farm animals   
     roughly follows the demand for their products;   
     and the less common notion that the world is made better off   
     by having more animals in existence.   
     Journal of Agricultural and Environmental Ethics (2005) 18:   
     GAVERICK MATHENY and KAI M. A. CHAN   
     HUMAN DIETS AND ANIMAL WELFARE: THE ILLOGIC OF THE LARDER   
      
   It can be wrong,   
   but it does not appear to be nonsensical to me.   
   Shall we talk about LoL point by point?   
      
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   Oxtail is not doing what he thinks he is doing here.   
      
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