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|    hari.kumar@indero.com to All    |
|    Re: IT IS A MYTH THAT MEAT IS A GOOD SOU    |
|    31 Aug 10 14:18:06    |
      6a81a3c5       XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian       XPost: soc.culture.usa              "Thanks for your reply. I'm curious why iron would be different       chemically in terms of absorption. One possibility is because of it's       requirement in hemoglobin. Perhaps animal blood hemoglobin is directly       absorbable? However, I am more interested in empirical evidence than       theory.."              You are close, the iron in animal sources is very nearly in the form it       is found in humans because we share much of the biochemistry with all       animals. This is in large part the form as in hemoglobin. We share       very much less biochemstry with plants where the iron comes in       biochemical compounds not found in animals. This is not theory but       based entirely on empirical observation.              > Low iron has high risk for cognitive and mental developmental problems       > for children and other risks for adults.              "Again, I'm curious how these things can be ascertained. Assuming you       are correct that diets low in animal protein have less absorbable iron,       this would still be difficult to show epidemiologically. There is       probably a bias towards countries with more diagnosis which will skew       statistics. Is there any such evidence or are your claims based on       theory?"              The evidence is epidemically derived by national public health groups       and collectively by the who. There is little if any controversy on this       point. The low iron status is very well known and you will find many       efforts to provide iron in the diet by adding it to the diet as       supplement in foods, but not as a vitamin pill.              "I also see that many supplements specifically advertise low iron       content, Bfor men. Do you think that there is a risk of too much iron       for men?"              There can be if very high levels of animal based diets are the norm.       The body normally adjusts iron levels by a method which either rejects       it in the gut if levels are too high or by storing it in tissue       internally. This is a very conservative process and normally iron loss       is quite low. But with high animal source diets the control process can       be overwhelmed too much on the high side. Women tend not to have this       problem and growing children require added iron for tissue growth       including a growing blood supply. There are also genetic disorders       where the control fails and toxic levels can result.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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