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   The reluctant vegan. to Dr. Jai Maharaj   
   Re: THE VEGAN DIET - HOW TO GUIDE FOR DI   
   25 Jul 11 14:05:22   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, alt.religion.hindu   
   XPost: alt.support.diabetes   
   From: veg@out.org   
      
   On 15/07/2011 4:38 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:   
   > The Vegan Diet - How To Guide for Diabetes   
   >   
   > pcrm.org   
   >   
   > Introduction   
   >   
   > Diet changes are the cornerstone to treating type 2 diabetes. Current   
   > diet recommendations require restricting portion sizes,   
      
   They do not - unless the person is overweight. As a vegan I now eat far   
   more than I did when I was omnivorous - in order to meet my full   
   necessary dietary needs. I am type 2 diabetic and am far from overweight   
   not all diabetics are fat.   
      
   > measuring and   
   > weighing foods, and limiting the total amount of carbohydrate.   
   > However, evidence suggests that a different dietary approach may be   
   > more effective and easier to follow.   
      
   Nonsense, there is no such REPUTABLE empirical evidence.   
      
   > The evidence favoring a new approach came first from comparisons of   
   > various populations around the world. People whose diets were based   
   > mainly on plant-derived foods -- that is, rice, noodles, beans, and   
   > vegetables -- were less likely to develop diabetes, compared with   
   > people whose diets are fattier or centered on meatier dishes. For   
   > example, among people following traditional Japanese diets, diabetes   
   > was rare. Studies show that when people moved from Japan to the U.S.   
   > and adopted a Western diet, they were much more likely to develop   
   > diabetes.   
   >   
   > These studies suggested that meaty, fatty diets cause the body to be   
   > more resistant to insulin's actions. Clinical research studies have   
   > shown that adopting a low-fat, plant-derived diet does indeed improve   
   > insulin sensitivity, help with weight loss, and reduce blood sugar   
   > and cholesterol.   
      
   More rubbish. Low fat fads were proven to of little value more than a   
   decade ago. They are only kept going by the food industry as low fat is   
   FAR FAR cheaper to produce than low carb, the true cause of fat gain.   
      
      
   >   
   > Part of the value of a low-fat, plant-based diet is that it is very   
   > low in saturated fat -- that is, the kind of fat that is found   
   > especially in meats, dairy products, and tropical oils (coconut,   
   > palm, or palm kernel oil). To cut fat effectively, you'll want to do   
   > two things:   
      
   Saturated fat is only dangerous when heated past smoke point as in BBQ   
   etc. Those people who consume large amounts of red meat in countries   
   where the meat is stewed or casseroled have no high incidences of   
   bowel/colon cancer as happens in demographics where grilled fired or   
   BBQd meat is favoured.   
      
   > The first step is to avoid animal-derived products. Needless to say,   
   > this eliminates all animal fats. It does something else, too: It   
   > eliminates animal protein. While we need protein, we do not need   
   > animal-derived protein. Animal proteins accelerate kidney damage in   
   > people who have already lost some kidney function.   
      
   ALL protein accelerates damage in those who have lost some kidney function.   
      
      
   > They also increase   
   > the loss of calcium from the body (through the kidneys and into the   
   > urine), potentially increasing the risk of osteoporosis. Plant   
   > sources of protein do not present these problems.   
      
   Absolute, unsupported nonsense.   
      
   You clearly have an agenda that doesn't support honest research or   
   reporting of such research.   
      
   It is one thing to advocate a vegetarian or vegan diet, it is quite   
   another to make dishonest claims in support of it. You are either   
   dishonest or clueless.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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