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   dh@. to Derek   
   Re: WHY VEGANISM?   
   17 Jan 12 17:39:01   
   
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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.animals.rights.promotion   
      
   On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:56:31 +0000, Derek  wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:49:48 -0800, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:22:12 +0000, Nemo (heh heh heh)  wrote:   
   >>>On 10/01/2012 23:13, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:31:27 +0000, Nemo (heh heh heh)     
   wrote:   
   >>>>> On 08/01/2012 20:32, Dutch wrote:   
   >>>>>> "Nemo" (heh heh heh) wrote   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Why Veganism?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> For compassion,   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> There's my reason.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Have you considered the collateral impact of those vegan alternatives?   
   For   
   >>>>>> example leather is a by-product of the meat industry,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No it is not a by-product. More animals are slaughtered than would   
   >>>>> otherwise be for their meat for leather.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      How do you figure that?   
   >>>   
   >>>Leather is a co-product of the meat industry, not a by-product of   
   >>>it. It's an economically dependent product of meat production made   
   >>>simultaneously with it to make each affordable to the consumer and   
   >>>thereby increases the demand for slaughtered animals. A by-product   
   >>>is something produced incidentally to another product that isn't   
   >>>economically dependent on it for its production.   
   >>   
   >>    Leather is.   
   >   
   > [Most consumers mistakenly assume that leather is merely   
   >  a by-product of the meat industry, and that buying leather   
   >  clothing does not increase the number of animals slaughtered.   
   >  However, this belief ignores the economic interdependence   
   >  of factory farming and the leather trade. In reality, leather is   
   >  a co-product of the meat industry, generating significant   
   >  profits for both factory farms and the leather trade itself. In   
   >  fact, without the lucrative sale of animal skins for leather,   
   >  factory farms would not even be able to turn a profit by   
   >  selling meat alone.   
      
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