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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, misc.rural   
      
   On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:37:37 -0800 (PST), Rupert    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Feb 27, 6:22 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:39:12 -0500, ToolPackinMama    
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >My favorite food used to be chicken.  recently, while I was preparing   
   >> >chicken for my family, I had an epiphany.   
   >>   
   >> >I was handling the chicken parts with great caution.  I had vinyl gloves   
   >> >on, and I was working hard to keep the process sanitary.  I am aware of   
   >> >how unclean chicken meat generally is.   
   >>   
   >> >It suddenly struck me:  "If I believe this has to be handled like toxic   
   >> >waste, why am I feeding it to my family!?"   
   >>   
   >>     It's not that way with "meat". It's that way with *some* meat. Notice   
   that   
   >> it's that way with meat from omnivores, which we are. So it makes sense that   
   >> there is a danger of exchanging microbes that can thrive in the bodies of   
   >> omnivores if you eat the bodies of omnivores without doing something to kill   
   >> those particular microbes. Notice that it's a danger in pork and chicken   
   which   
   >> are both omnivores, and not in beef and fish because their systems are too   
   >> different. But the good part is that if you kill the microbes which is   
   simple   
   >> enough, then the meat is good for you and your family.   
   >>   
   >> >It hit me like a bolt of lightning:  I believe that meat is unwholesome,   
   >> >so why am I still eating it, and serving it to others!?   
   >>   
   >>     Just make sure you kill the microbes which also results in better   
   tasting   
   >> meat. No one likes rare chicken, and though rare pork tastes awesome it can   
   make   
   >> a person horribly sick. So cook it.   
   >>   
   >> >I have always hated the cruelty that "food animals" were subjected to.   
   >> >I had to not think about it, to be able to eat meat at all.  Well, I am   
   >> >thinking about it now, and it makes the thought of meat even more   
   repugnant.   
   >>   
   >>     Broiler chickens and their parents are not kept in little cages and the   
   vast   
   >> majority of them get to enjoy lives of positive value, imo. The same is   
   true of   
   >> cage free laying hens in general so if you buy cage free eggs you are   
   supporting   
   >> a system which deliberately tries to provide lives of positive value for   
   laying   
   >> hens. There's reason to feel good about doing that, not reason to feel bad   
   about   
   >> it. There's reason to feel bad about buying battery cage eggs though   
   especially   
   >> if you could get cage free simply by spending more money. Not only does   
   buying   
   >> cage free eggs and whatever other animal friendly products deliberately   
   >> contribute to lives of positive value for livestock animals, but it also   
   puts   
   >> you in the position of deliberately contributing to a more considerate type   
   of   
   >> society and thinking in general. Notice that it's a level of consideration   
   and   
   >> participation that eliminationists do NOT want other people to intentionally   
   >> rise to because it works AGAINST their selfish and lowly elimination   
   objective.   
   >>   
   >> >OK!  The solution seems simple:  vegetarianism.   
   >>   
   >>   · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of   
   >> wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of   
   >> buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.   
   >   
   >Which gives her absolutely no reason why she shouldn't go vegetarian.   
      
       Other things which you snipped suggest why it would be ethically equivalent   
   or superior if she becomes a conscientious consumer of both plant AND animal   
   products.   
      
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