XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, talk.politics.animals, alt   
   food.vegan.science   
   From: me@privacy.net   
      
   On 07/03/2012 20:32, George Plimpton wrote:   
   > "glen" He shares   
   > moral responsibility for the animal CDs caused in order to put food on   
   > his plate.  This cannot be rationally disputed.   
      
   Yes it can. St. Derek disputed it rationally and took you out.   
      
   > His relationship with the hands-on killers of animals has these elements:   
   >   
   > * the relationship is voluntary - no coercion applied to the principal   
   >   
   > * the principal is an active participant, i.e., actively engages in   
   >     the relationship such as, for example, going to the grocery   
   >   
   > * the principal is fully aware of the agent's actions   
   >   
   > * the relationship is not instrumentally necessary for the principal to   
   >     achieve a legitimate goal, e.g. the acquisition of food   
      
   Stop killing humans with your tailpipe hypocrite. They have a right not to be   
   killed by you. Start   
   believing in your own bullshit first and maybe others might take you seriously.   
      
   Note to St. Derek.   
      
   1. How the fuck can you respect this guy?   
   2. *WHAT* the fuck can I learn from him?   
   3. Decent? What the fuck?   
   4. Honest? What the fuck?   
   5. Intelligent? Fuck no.   
      
   Yep, Rupert is very smart and inquisitive and you regret a lot of stuff you've   
   said to him because   
   he's a decent but no way is Ball smarter than him!!! How the fuck can I stick   
   with Ball and learn   
   stuff I never thought existed? He's a cunt end of.   
      
   >   
   > "mark" or "glen" or "little cocksucker" or whatever he is this week   
   > doesn't need to hire an agent at all, and he doesn't need to hire one   
   > who kills animals collaterally.  That he does makes him share moral   
   > responsibility for the deaths of animals.  He cannot claim to be living   
   > a "cruelty free 'lifestyle'", and he sure as hell isn't "minimizing" his   
   > CD footprint because he has never measured.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)