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food.vegan.science
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:02:15 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:
>
> wrote in message news:0aq1n7l75o6v74dkbkqpc484btqpe410dh@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:17:42 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> wrote in message news:vh2nm7t202vpaier63p6dj3hkjbr0cigsl@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:45:28 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>news:om1fm79qucq17kp0f25ad6jmq6fukp0ijv@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:25:02 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:8f6vl7t58a8b5hup82daqci7rtodia1nv5@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HOW do you want us to try pretending that Goo's claims are my
>>>>>>>> stupidity, do
>>>>>>>> you have any clue at all?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then YOU are the moron for trying to pretend Goo's claims have
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do with me, when you have no reason to try to pretend backing the
>>>>>> stupid
>>>>>> idea up
>>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>>It is YOU who listed all the quotes, and it is YOU who has misconstrued
>>>>>and
>>>>>misinterpreted all of them.
>>>>
>>>> The Goober himself said they were all true.
>>>
>>>They are accurate statements
>>
>> You whine because I quoted the Goober making what you yourself claim
>> are
>> "accurate statements". What freak.
>
>You quoted them to demonstrate something that they do not demonstrate.
If you want people to think the Gooberdoodle disagrees with himself about
any of his quotes that you both claim are true, try to explain which one(s) and
why you want people to think he disagrees.
>>>, for example, "giving them life does NOT
>>>mitigate the wrongness of their deaths" is an accurate expression of an
>>>ARA
>>>mentality. He said it in order to explain to you why the LoL is a useless
>>>strategy, besides being dishonest sophistry. He doesn't think that killing
>>>farm animals is wrong, YOU IDIOT.
>>
>> He let us know that he does, you moron. It's too late to lie about it
>> now,
>> YOU IDIOT.
>
>No, he didn't, the wrongness in "the wrongness of their deaths" exists
>within the mind of the "ethical vegetarian", not in his mind.
"Life "justifying" death is the
stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote." - Goo
""aras" confront him with a truth that . . . consumption
of "meat...gravy" harms animals interests." - Goo
>He is saying
>that giving them life does not mitigate THAT "wrongness" within *their*
>believe system.
"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo
"It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense - unjust, in other
words - if humans kill animals they don't need to kill, i.e. not
in self defense. There's your answer. " - Goo
you MUST believe that it makes moral sense not
to raise the animals as the only way to prevent the harm that
results from killing them." - Goo
>He and I do not see any wrongness in their deaths. Everyone
>except you knows that.
"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral
consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing
of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral
consideration, and gets it." - Goo
"we need to consider group 1, those animals who WILL
exist under present rules" - "Dutch"
"Because future animals who will inevitably be born are
as important as ones which exist now. " - Dutch
"It's wrong to exploit animals by breeding, confining and
killing them." - "Dutch"
"Every consumer choice promotes animals to experience
life." - Dutch
"Life does not justify death" - "Dutch"
"abstaining from meat saves future animals from life" - "Dutch"
>You are REALLY stupid.
"you should become a vegan. I've been saying that to you
for years." - "Dutch"
"I am an animal rights believer." - "Dutch"
"we must have at least the same right as every animal does, which is
to seek to compete successfully, sustain ourselves and thrive." - "Dutch"
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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