XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.philosophy, talk.politics.animals   
   XPost: alt.politics   
      
   On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:50:55 -0700, Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:29:40 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:28:12 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, dh@. quoted Goo revealing that   
   >>> quality of life doesn't matter to him:   
   >>>   
   >>>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude   
   >>>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo   
   >   
   >You give the quality of their lives *zero* consideration, Goo.   
      
       Your quote above proves that quality means nothing to you, Goo.   
   . . .   
   >>>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing   
   >>>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>""appreciation for decent AW" doesn't *MEAN* anything" - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>""appreciation for decent AW" doesn't mean anything." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo   
   . . .   
   >>>>"The topic is not and never has been whether or not   
   >>>>existing animals enjoy living." - Goo   
   . . .   
   >>>>"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter   
   >>>>its quality of live" - Goo   
   >   
   >The part to which you give *no* consideration, Goo.  I've proved it, via   
   >your own quotes.   
      
       I proved that you give no consideration to the part about quality of life   
   by   
   posting your quotes Goob. You have confirmed that it means nothing to you, but   
   I   
   proved it to begin with by quoting you specifically saying so.   
      
   >>>>"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way   
   >>>>at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Being born is not a benefit in any way.  It can't be." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of   
   >>>>their deaths" - Goo   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)