XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.philosophy, talk.politics.animals   
   XPost: alt.politics   
      
   On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:57:27 -0700, Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:41:36 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:50:55 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:29:40 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:28:12 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, dh@. quoted Goo revealing that   
   >>>>> quality of life doesn't matter to him:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude   
   >>>>>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo   
   >>>   
   >>>You give the quality of their lives *zero* consideration, Goo.   
   >>   
   >>    Your quote above proves that quality means nothing to you, Goo.   
   >>. . .   
   >>>>>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing   
   >>>>>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>""appreciation for decent AW" doesn't *MEAN* anything" - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>""appreciation for decent AW" doesn't mean anything." - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo   
   >>. . .   
   >>>>>>"The topic is not and never has been whether or not   
   >>>>>>existing animals enjoy living." - Goo   
   >>. . .   
   >>>>>>"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter   
   >>>>>>its quality of live" - Goo   
   >>>   
   >>>The part to which you give *no* consideration, Goo.  I've proved it, via   
   >>>your own quotes.   
   >>   
   >>    I proved that you give no consideration to the part about quality of   
   life by   
   >>posting your quotes Goob. You have confirmed that it means nothing to you,   
   but I   
   >>proved it to begin with by quoting you specifically saying so.   
   >   
   >No.   
      
       Yes that's how I proved it Goob.   
      
   >>>>>>"It is not "better" in any moral way, and not in *any* way   
   >>>>>>at all to the animal itself, that the animal exists." - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>"Being born is not a benefit in any way.  It can't be." - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of   
   >>>>>>their deaths" - Goo   
      
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