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   On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:50:12 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Jul 2, 9:31 am, Delvin Benet  wrote:   
   >> There is nothing inherently unethical about eating meat.   
   >   
   >Modern meat production inflicts considerable suffering on animals.   
      
       What sort of suffering do you think it inflicts to the point that you feel   
   the animals' lives are not worth living to the animals? Explain in detail which   
   livestock lives you feel are not worth living for the animals and why. Don't   
   just say "suffering" but explain what the suffering is from.   
      
   >It   
   >is not justifiable to inflict so much suffering just so that we can   
   >enjoy the taste of their flesh.   
      
       As yet you have no argument whatsoever. On top of having no argument until   
   you produce examples of the types of suffering you're referring to, you also   
   have yet to appreciate when life is good for any animals other than grass   
   raised   
   beef, and you can't decide whether you should be opposed to it or not. Also   
   grass raised dairy certainly seems like it should provide lives of positive   
   value not only for the cattle themselves, but also all the wildlife that   
   benefits from the environment. I believe it's safe to say that wildlife benefit   
   more from grass raised cattle farming than they do from soybean farming and   
   rice   
   farming.   
      
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