XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:51:50 -0700, Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 12:42:05 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 12:50:12 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   >>wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Jul 2, 9:31 am, Delvin Benet  wrote:   
   >>>> There is nothing inherently unethical about eating meat.   
   >>>   
   >>>Modern meat production inflicts considerable suffering on animals.   
   >>   
   >>    What sort of suffering do you think it inflicts to the point that you   
   feel   
   >>the animals' lives are not worth living to the animals? Explain in detail   
   which   
   >>livestock lives you feel are not worth living for the animals and why. Don't   
   >>just say "suffering" but explain what the suffering is from.   
   >>   
   >>>It   
   >>>is not justifiable to inflict so much suffering just so that we can   
   >>>enjoy the taste of their flesh.   
   >>   
   >>    As yet you have no argument whatsoever. On top of having no argument   
   until   
   >>you produce examples of the types of suffering you're referring to, you also   
   >>have yet to appreciate when life is good for any animals other than grass   
   raised   
   >>beef, and you can't decide whether you should be opposed to it or not. Also   
   >>grass raised dairy certainly seems like it should provide lives of positive   
   >>value not only for the cattle themselves, but also all the wildlife that   
   >>benefits from the environment. I believe it's safe to say that wildlife   
   benefit   
   >>more from grass raised cattle farming than they do from soybean farming and   
   rice   
   >>farming.   
   >   
   >He has no less argument   
      
       He has produced no argument at all Goober. Not a single example to back up   
   his claim.   
      
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