XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:55:22 -0700, Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:05:44 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>>dh quoted Goo:   
   >>>>On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:30:32 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:13:55 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>    Humans have as much justification to kill other animals as other   
   animals   
   >>>>>>have to kill humans and other animals Goo. Some people are capable of   
   moving on   
   >>>>>>beyond that point and actually consider the animals themselves and   
   what's good   
   >>>>>>and bad for them. Others of you only want to consider bad things because   
   and   
   >>>>>>only because considering positive aspects for millions of livestock   
   animals   
   >>>>>>works against the elimination objective.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Show it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"the nutritionally unnecessary choice deliberately to kill an animal   
   >>>>ALWAYS causes a moral harm greater in magnitude than . . . the   
   >>>>moral "benefit" realized by the animal in existing at all" - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude   
   >>>>than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing   
   >>>>of the animals erases all of it." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"it is not "better" that the animal exist, no matter   
   >>>>its quality of live" - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of   
   >>>>their deaths" - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"   
   >>>>(in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for   
   >>>>killing them." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Life "justifying" death is the stupidest goddamned thing   
   >>>>you ever wrote." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting   
   >>>>to experience life" - Goo   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"one MUST conclude that not raising them in the first place is the   
   >>>>ethically superior choice." - Goo   
   >>>   
   >>>You didn't show it.   
   >>   
   >>    I showed that you only want to consider bad things because and only   
   because   
   >>considering positive aspects for millions of livestock animals works against   
   the   
   >>elimination objective, Goo.   
   >   
   >You   
      
       Goober as always if you want people to think you think you disagree with   
   yourself about any of your quotes then YOU need to try explaining HOW you want   
   people to think you think you do. But you can't even make an attempt Goob   
   because you agree with yourself about every bit of it. You agree with yourself   
   about every one of the quotes I presented, Goo.   
      
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