XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:40:19 -0700, Goo confirmed my prediction:   
      
   >On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:55:52 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:51:52 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:40:36 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:32:27 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>      The fact that people who don't feel they have what could be   
   considered a   
   >>>>>> truly "good" life don't all kill themselves tells us that life still has   
   >>>>>> positive value to them   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Those people already exist,   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    So do animals in similar positions.   
   >>>   
   >>>No.   
   >>   
   >>    LOL!!! The idea that there are no animals in similar positions is so   
   stupid   
   >>it's hilarious Goo.   
   >>   
   >>>>>life only has value to a being once they   
   >>>>>exist. You need to read Salt's essay again, not that you will understand   
   it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    I understand that commercially raised pigs are no longer filthily   
   housed and   
   >>>>fed, and also that Salt didn't have any idea whether life is of positive   
   value   
   >>>>to most modern commercially raised pigs or not. I'd also say it's safe to   
   >>>>believe that he wouldn't feel any livestock animals' lives were worth   
   living the   
   >>>>same as you and the Goober and all other misnomer addicts, meaning that   
   none of   
   >>>>you could make a realistic distinction between which lives seem to be   
   negative   
   >>>>and which seem to be positive.   
   >>>   
   >>>You *should* understand, but fail to understand, that "getting to   
   >>>experience life" is not a benefit.   
   >>   
   >>    It often appears that it is a benefit Goob so if you want people to think   
   >>something prevents it from being one, YOU need to try to explain what you   
   want   
   >>people to think prevents it. Try explaining what you want people to think   
   >>prevents you from benefitting from experiencing your own life, Goo. Go:   
   >   
   >No.   
      
       LOL!!! I know you can't even make an attempt to explain Goo, as I correctly   
   predicted and you just proved for me. LOL....   
      
   >>(correct prediction: the Goober not only can't explain what he thinks is   
   >>preventing him from benefitting, but he's ashamed to even attempt to explain)   
      
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