XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:27:50 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 03 Sep 2012, nobody is ever defeated by dh's challenges:   
   >>   
   >>> dh@. presented "Dutch" with a challenge:   
   >>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:11:51 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:48:14 -0700, Bob Casanova    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:45:56 -0700, the following appeared   
   >>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Goo:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   How's that "pre-existent state" thing working for you, Goo?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Is that like "pre-emergent" herbicide? At least that sort of   
   >>>>>>> works, so I'd guess the answer is "not very well"...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>        Goo claims:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> "The only way that the concept "benefit from existence"   
   >>>>>> can begin to make sense semantically is if one assumes   
   >>>>>> a pre-existent state" - Goo   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> and I don't believe him.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Because you're an idiot.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>       Try presenting any reason(s) why you think anyone should believe   
   the Goober   
   >>>> about that. Go:   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Because it is true. Your uncle Jethro can't benefit from winning the   
   >>> lottery unless he exists, that is true of all benefits. A benefit   
   >>> requires an entity to receive it.   
   >>   
   >>      LOL!!! Explain how you want people to think that my having no uncle   
   Jethro,   
   >> OR ANYTHING ELSE, is preventing you from benfitting from your existence as   
   you   
   >> clearly appear to be doing. Go:   
   >   
   >Simple, read Salt again, this time for comprehension.   
      
       "If, then, thou art firm set on pork, so be it, for pork I am" - Salt   
      
   The pig lived only to be eaten. If didn't specifically say it wished it had   
   never been born even though your imaginary pig DID know it was going to be   
   killed and even that it was going to be eaten. Real pigs have no idea they will   
   be killed and even less that they will be eaten. The fantasy by your   
   eliminationist hero is crap, but you love it because it supports elimination.   
   That's yet another way you reveal yourself, btw.   
      
   >> (correct prediction: you can't even make an attempt and are defeated by this   
   >> challenge completely and absolutely)   
   >   
   >It was no challenge   
      
       In contrast to that most blatant of lies it's a challenge that remains and   
   you can't even attempt to meet it.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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