XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:20:20 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:51:14 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 09:58:55 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:05:32 -0400, the following appeared   
   >>>in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:42:51 -0700, Bob Casanova  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:47:33 -0700, the following appeared   
   >>>>>in sci.skeptic, posted by Dutch :   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:11:51 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:48:14 -0700, Bob Casanova    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:45:56 -0700, the following appeared   
   >>>>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Goo:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   How's that "pre-existent state" thing working for you,   
   Goo?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Is that like "pre-emergent" herbicide? At least that sort of   
   >>>>>>>>>> works, so I'd guess the answer is "not very well"...   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>       Goo claims:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> "The only way that the concept "benefit from existence"   
   >>>>>>>>> can begin to make sense semantically is if one assumes   
   >>>>>>>>> a pre-existent state" - Goo   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> and I don't believe him.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Because you're an idiot.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>      Try presenting any reason(s) why you think anyone should believe   
   the Goober   
   >>>>>>> about that. Go:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Because it is true. Your uncle Jethro can't benefit from winning the   
   >>>>>>lottery unless he exists, that is true of all benefits. A benefit   
   >>>>>>requires an entity to receive it.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>Now let's all listen to the WHOOOSH! as that passes over his   
   >>>>>head (or maybe through it; the medium would be identical)...   
   >>>   
   >>>>    LOL!!!! Maybe you think you can help team goober with this, and try to   
   >>>>explain what you think is preventing you from benefiting from your   
   existence.   
   >>>   
   >>>Prediction confirmed   
   >>   
   >>    You confirmed that you can't explain it just as the goos can't. You may   
   not   
   >>even believe their claim yourself. If you do, explain how you think you can   
   >>continue to benefit after you lose the benefit of life. That's another one   
   the   
   >>goos have never been able to attempt explaining.   
   >   
   >Nonexistent entities cannot receive "benefits"; it's as   
   >simple as that.   
      
       You need to explain what you want people to think prevents you from   
   benefitting from your life now. If you want them to think it has something to   
   do   
   with your pre-existent state as you suggested then you need to explain WHAT   
   about your pre-existent state is preventing you now and HOW it's doing so. But   
   you can't do it as you've already shown, and the goos can't do it as they have   
   show, so at this point it STILL appears that you're benefitting from your life.   
   Since you can't say what's preventing you from benefitting now, your only other   
   way of possibly showing life is not a benefit would be if you could explain how   
   you think you can continue benefitting from anything after you're no longer   
   alive. You can't do that either though. You can't do anything except make a   
   claim you can't back up. Goo lied to you and you believe him, unless you are   
   Goo   
   posting as yet another of the dozens of "different people" that Goo has   
   dishonestly pretended to be. In fact in case you're not Goo and are not very   
   familiar with him, Goo has dishonestly pretended to be all of the following   
   different people and more:   
      
   Jonathan Ball   
   Citizen   
   Benfez   
   Wilson Woods   
   Radical Moderate   
   Bingo   
   Edward   
   George   
   Bill   
   Fred   
   Mystery Poster   
   Merlin the dog   
   Bob the dog   
   silvia@onairos.com   
   elvira   
   Dieter   
   "Dieter d.Schmidt@deutsche_telekom.de"   
      
   Abner Hale   
   Roger Whitaker   
   Fucktard   
   Apoo   
   Ted Bell   
   notgenx32@yahoo.com   
   Jay Santos   
   mortons.steakhouse@chicago.not   
   Rudy Canoza   
   Trappist   
   sb292sb@yahoo.com   
   Leif Erikson   
   S. Maizlich   
   SlipperySlope   
   Eden   
   Sylvia Stevens   
   chico chupacabra   
   S. Maizlich   
   T. Howard Pines, Jr.   
   George Plimpton   
   Chrissy Degeer   
   Mauricio Rodriguez, Nihada Tutic and Tim Goss   
   Pete Crayne, Dare Adelekan, Cathy Demkiw, and about 16 others   
   Räy Fîscher   
   Barack Obama   
   Delma T. Ivey   
      
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