XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism
XPost: sci.skeptic
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:49:42 -0700, Bob Casanova wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:16:38 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:20:20 -0700, Bob Casanova wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 17:51:14 -0400, dh@. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Sep 2012 09:58:55 -0700, Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:05:32 -0400, the following appeared
>>>>>in sci.skeptic, posted by dh@.:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 08:42:51 -0700, Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:47:33 -0700, the following appeared
>>>>>>>in sci.skeptic, posted by Dutch :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 20:11:51 -0700, Dutch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:48:14 -0700, Bob Casanova
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:45:56 -0700, the following appeared
>>>>>>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Goo:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How's that "pre-existent state" thing working for
you, Goo?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that like "pre-emergent" herbicide? At least that sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>> works, so I'd guess the answer is "not very well"...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Goo claims:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The only way that the concept "benefit from existence"
>>>>>>>>>>> can begin to make sense semantically is if one assumes
>>>>>>>>>>> a pre-existent state" - Goo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and I don't believe him.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because you're an idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try presenting any reason(s) why you think anyone should
believe the Goober
>>>>>>>>> about that. Go:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Because it is true. Your uncle Jethro can't benefit from winning the
>>>>>>>>lottery unless he exists, that is true of all benefits. A benefit
>>>>>>>>requires an entity to receive it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now let's all listen to the WHOOOSH! as that passes over his
>>>>>>>head (or maybe through it; the medium would be identical)...
>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!!!! Maybe you think you can help team goober with this, and try
to
>>>>>>explain what you think is preventing you from benefiting from your
existence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Prediction confirmed
>>>>
>>>> You confirmed that you can't explain it just as the goos can't. You
may not
>>>>even believe their claim yourself. If you do, explain how you think you can
>>>>continue to benefit after you lose the benefit of life. That's another one
the
>>>>goos have never been able to attempt explaining.
>>>
>>>Nonexistent entities cannot receive "benefits"; it's as
>>>simple as that.
>>
>> You need to explain what you want people to think prevents you from
>>benefitting from your life now. If you want them to think it has something
to do
>>with your pre-existent state as you suggested then you need to explain WHAT
>>about your pre-existent state is preventing you now and HOW it's doing so.
But
>>you can't do it as you've already shown, and the goos can't do it as they
have
>>show, so at this point it STILL appears that you're benefitting from your
life.
>>Since you can't say what's preventing you from benefitting now, your only
other
>>way of possibly showing life is not a benefit would be if you could explain
how
>>you think you can continue benefitting from anything after you're no longer
>>alive. You can't do that either though. You can't do anything except make a
>>claim you can't back up. Goo lied to you and you believe him,
>
>No I don't. Since I exist nothing prevents me from deriving
>benefits from that existence. The issue is about nonexistent
>entities, which can derive no benefits;
LOL!!! To YOU and to GOO it's about some pre-existent state but as I keep
pointing out you can't say what it is about your pre-existence that prevents
you, OR BILLIONS OF LIVESTOCK ANIMALS, from benefitting from life.
>see, it says so
>right above your latest erroneous post. *Do* try to keep up,
>or at least to understand the original question.
WE are discussing animals that exist and will exist. You and the Goober are
also very worried about.....whatever pre-existence issues you both have.
>>unless you are Goo
>>posting as yet another of the dozens of "different people" that Goo has
>>dishonestly pretended to be. In fact in case you're not Goo and are not very
>>familiar with him, Goo has dishonestly pretended to be all of the following
>>different people and more:
>>
>>Jonathan Ball
>>Citizen
>>Benfez
>>Wilson Woods
>>Radical Moderate
>>Bingo
>>Edward
>>George
>>Bill
>>Fred
>>Mystery Poster
>>Merlin the dog
>>Bob the dog
>>silvia@onairos.com
>>elvira
>>Dieter
>>"Dieter d.Schmidt@deutsche_telekom.de"
>>
>>Abner Hale
>>Roger Whitaker
>>Fucktard
>>Apoo
>>Ted Bell
>>notgenx32@yahoo.com
>>Jay Santos
>>mortons.steakhouse@chicago.not
>>Rudy Canoza
>>Trappist
>>sb292sb@yahoo.com
>>Leif Erikson
>>S. Maizlich
>>SlipperySlope
>>Eden
>>Sylvia Stevens
>>chico chupacabra
>>S. Maizlich
>>T. Howard Pines, Jr.
>>George Plimpton
>>Chrissy Degeer
>>Mauricio Rodriguez, Nihada Tutic and Tim Goss
>>Pete Crayne, Dare Adelekan, Cathy Demkiw, and about 16 others
>>Räy Fîscher
>>Barack Obama
>>Delma T. Ivey
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