XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:42:24 -0700, Goo desperately puled:   
      
   >On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:24:08 -0400, dh@. wrote   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:23:17 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:19:05 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>    Goober what do you think is preventing you from benefitting from your   
   life   
   >>>>now? If you think it has something to do with before you existed, then you   
   need   
   >>>>to say WHAT specifically, and HOW.   
   >>>   
   >>>Coming into existence - "getting to experience life" - is not a benefit.   
   >>>  It cannot be:  it does not improve an entity's welfare, and such a   
   >>>welfare improvement is the definition of benefit.   
   >>   
   >>    How do you think that prevents you from benefitting now Goob?   
   >   
   >By definition   
      
       How do you think the definition of benefit prevents you from benefitting   
   now   
   Goob? Try to explain it without mentioning pre-existence, Goo. You can't.   
      
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