XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:32:22 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:07:29 -0700, Goo desperately, feebly puled:   
   >>   
   >>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:30:22 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:42:24 -0700, Goo desperately puled:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:24:08 -0400, dh@. wrote   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:23:17 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:19:05 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>     Goober what do you think is preventing you from benefitting from   
   your life   
   >>>>>>>> now? If you think it has something to do with before you existed,   
   then you need   
   >>>>>>>> to say WHAT specifically, and HOW.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Coming into existence - "getting to experience life" - is not a   
   benefit.   
   >>>>>>>   It cannot be:  it does not improve an entity's welfare, and such a   
   >>>>>>> welfare improvement is the definition of benefit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>     How do you think that prevents you from benefitting now Goob?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> By definition   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     How do you think the definition of benefit prevents you from   
   benefitting now   
   >>>> Goob? Try to explain it without mentioning pre-existence, Goo. You can't.   
   >>>   
   >>> Coming into existence - "getting to   
   >>> experience life" - does not improve an entity's welfare   
   >>   
   >>      How do you think that's preventing you from benefitting now Goob?   
   >   
   >There's no such thing.   
      
       As what?   
      
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