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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.sport.football.college,   
   rec.food.cooking   
   XPost: alt.gothic   
   From: rubrum@pacbell.net   
      
   In article   
   <23ec1254-5113-40c1-9cbe-f215bbc82063@c20g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,   
    Rupert  wrote:   
      
   > On Oct 16, 11:40 pm, Michael Press  wrote:   
   > > In article   
   > > ,   
   > >   
   > >  Rupert  wrote:   
   > > > On Oct 16, 4:28 pm, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy"  wrote:   
   > > > > "Rupert"  wrote   
   > >   
   > > > >  > > >  >   
   > > > > Cool.  If the right to life isn't self-evident, then we kill your   
   > > > > kind with impunity.   
   > >   
   > > > Actually, you will find that there are legal penalties for murder.   
   > >   
   > > Non sequitur.   
   > >   
   >   
   > It's not a non sequitur at all. He made the assertion that if there   
   > were no moral truths then it would follow that he could kill vegans   
   > with impunity. Actually, this is demonstrably false because he lives   
   > under a legal system which imposes penalties for murdering other human   
   > beings, so it's not true that he can kill other human beings with   
   > impunity. This is part of the reality of his situation regardless of   
   > whether or not there are any moral truths.   
   >   
   > Perfectly straightforward.   
      
   Okay. I did not parse `impunity' properly.   
      
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   Michael Press   
      
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