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   Message 18,282 of 19,117   
   dh@. to Dutch   
   Re: Dietary ethics   
   18 Oct 12 14:18:36   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:46:03 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:32:22 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> dh@. wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:07:29 -0700, Goo desperately, feebly puled:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:30:22 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:42:24 -0700, Goo desperately puled:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:24:08 -0400, dh@. wrote   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:23:17 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:19:05 -0400, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>      Goober what do you think is preventing you from benefitting   
   from your life   
   >>>>>>>>>> now? If you think it has something to do with before you existed,   
   then you need   
   >>>>>>>>>> to say WHAT specifically, and HOW.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Coming into existence - "getting to experience life" - is not a   
   benefit.   
   >>>>>>>>>    It cannot be:  it does not improve an entity's welfare, and such a   
   >>>>>>>>> welfare improvement is the definition of benefit.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>      How do you think that prevents you from benefitting now Goob?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> By definition   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>      How do you think the definition of benefit prevents you from   
   benefitting now   
   >>>>>> Goob? Try to explain it without mentioning pre-existence, Goo. You   
   can't.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Coming into existence - "getting to   
   >>>>> experience life" - does not improve an entity's welfare   
   >>>>   
   >>>>       How do you think that's preventing you from benefitting now Goob?   
   >>>   
   >>> There's no such thing.   
   >>   
   >>      As what?   
   >>   
   >   
   >"Benefiting from your life".   
      
       You appear to benefit from yours. What do you want people to think is   
   preventing you so we should feel sorry for you, do you have any clue at all?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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