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   From: rupertmccallum@yahoo.com   
      
   On Oct 18, 8:23 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:06:38 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   > >My assertion   
   > >that the dairy industry inflicts considerable suffering and premature   
   > >death on a large number of cows was factual   
   >   
   >     No it's not since as I pointed out you can't inflict premature death when   
   > the only option is no life at all.   
      
   Of course you can, you stupid fool.   
      
   > Since we know you have no grounds to complain   
   > about that aspect it makes it seem likely that the suffering you're   
   referring to   
   > may not be enough to make their lives of negative value to them either. So,   
   what   
   > sort of suffering are you referring to?   
      
   http://www.ciwf.org.uk/farm_animals/cows/dairy_cows/welfare_issues.aspx   
      
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