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   XPost: alt.creative+cooking, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.food.cooking   
   From: rupertmccallum@yahoo.com   
      
   On 29 Okt., 23:07, dh@. wrote:   
   > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:44:53 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
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   > >On Oct 24, 9:50 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
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   > >> >On Oct 24, 12:32 am, dh@. wrote:   
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   > >> >> Probably what would be best would be to learn what percentage of which   
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   > >> >> animals are killed by growing soy. Then by cows eating grass. Even   
   though it   
   > >> >> seems obvious the number would be much lower for the cattle, you could   
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   > >> >> learn to appreciate it or probably even accept it. It would probably   
   be another   
   > >> >> one of those things your brain can only interpret as "nonsense".   
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   > >> >You've got to take into account the death of the cow when it is   
   > >> >slaughtered as well.   
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   > >> With the cow its life and death both need to be considered, while with the   
   > >> CDs only their deaths since they weren't raised deliberately to be killed   
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   > >> human food production. And remember that even you have once in a while   
   felt the   
   > >> lives of some grass raised cattle might be "good".   
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   > >Your original remark was "It [seitan] almost certainly involves more   
   > >animal deaths than grass raised beef". This remark was unfounded.   
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   >     It could only be untrue if there are no wildlife to speak of in the soy   
   > fields.   
      
   That`s false. We have done a comparative analysis of the death toll   
   caused by soy products and beef elsewhere in this thread.   
      
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