5a82993c   
   XPost: alt.creative+cooking, alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.food.cooking   
      
   On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:16:15 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 29 Okt., 23:07, dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:44:53 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   >> wrote:   
   >> >On Oct 24, 9:50 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:19:11 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >On Oct 24, 12:32 am, dh@. wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Probably what would be best would be to learn what percentage of   
   which type   
   >> >> >> animals are killed by growing soy. Then by cows eating grass. Even   
   though it   
   >> >> >> seems obvious the number would be much lower for the cattle, you   
   could never   
   >> >> >> learn to appreciate it or probably even accept it. It would probably   
   be another   
   >> >> >> one of those things your brain can only interpret as "nonsense".   
   >>   
   >> >> >You've got to take into account the death of the cow when it is   
   >> >> >slaughtered as well.   
   >>   
   >> >> With the cow its life and death both need to be considered, while with   
   the   
   >> >> CDs only their deaths since they weren't raised deliberately to be   
   killed for   
   >> >> human food production. And remember that even you have once in a while   
   felt the   
   >> >> lives of some grass raised cattle might be "good".   
   >>   
   >> >Your original remark was "It [seitan] almost certainly involves more   
   >> >animal deaths than grass raised beef". This remark was unfounded.   
   >>   
   >>     It could only be untrue if there are no wildlife to speak of in the soy   
   >> fields.   
   >   
   >That`s false.   
      
       You're being dishonest again. How do you suggest that we could try to   
   pretend the number of animals in the fields has nothing to do with it?   
      
   >We have done a comparative analysis of the death toll   
   >caused by soy products and beef elsewhere in this thread.   
      
       Nothing worthwhile if at all. Do one now if you want. Good luck.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)