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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian   
   From: rupertmccallum@yahoo.com   
      
   On Nov 13, 10:42 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:09:39 -0800 (PST), Rupert    
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   > >On Nov 6, 6:02 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:27:42 -0800 (PST), Rupert    
   > >> wrote:   
   > >> >On Nov 5, 9:57 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> >> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:16:38 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
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   > >> >> >On Nov 1, 4:49 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> >> >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:15:14 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
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   > >> >> >> >On 29 Okt., 23:03, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Rupert <   
   upertmccal...@yahoo.com>   
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   > >> >> >> >> >On Oct 24, 9:36 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:32:51 -0700 (PDT), Rupert   
      
   > >> >> >> >> >> wrote:   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> >On Oct 24, 12:36 am, dh@. wrote:   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> So far it appears clear that he is. Though Goo tried to   
   wuss it off as   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> Slater forging something, it seems Slater copied Goo's   
   original post which Goo   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> later removed, and Slater presented again much to the   
   Goober's sorrow. It seems   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> unlikely that Goo it telling the truth about Slater   
   forging anything considering   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> the fact that Goo has lied about several other little   
   things regarding the   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> topic. Why would Goo lie about little things if the big   
   thing were not itself a   
   > >> >> >> >> >> >> lie he thinks the little lies somehow support?   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> >It's completely obvious that the post by Slater is a forgery.   
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   > >> >> >> >> >> If so then why does Goo lie about little things if the big   
   thing is not   
   > >> >> >> >> >> itself a lie he thinks the little lies somehow support?   
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   > >> >> >> >> >What has he lied about?   
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   > >> >> >> >> For one thing Goo lied that I told you I knew Slater forged it,   
   when of   
   > >> >> >> >> course I still don't know that and in fact it's looking more and   
   more like he   
   > >> >> >> >> didn't as time goes along. If you're going to try to help the   
   Goober lie about   
   > >> >> >> >> this (imo of course because of your admiration for him) then you   
   need to present   
   > >> >> >> >> the evidence for it that Goo has been completely unable to   
   attempt presenting.   
   > >> >> >> >> What Goo's trying to do is wuss away from it for however long he   
   waits, and then   
   > >> >> >> >> he'll begin lying that it's already been presented and   
   hilariously suggest that   
   > >> >> >> >> we go back and try to find it for him. Why do you want to   
   support Goo's lie   
   > >> >> >> >> about this particular thing anyway, do you know?   
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   > >> >> >> >I don`t wish to support anything Ball has said. I simply asked you   
   a   
   > >> >> >> >question.   
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   > >> >> >> You questioned him about it before, which of course was/is a   
   surprise to me.   
   > >> >> >> Maybe he scolded you for it through email?   
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   > >> >> >Of course not;   
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   > >> >> Of course that's what you would say if he did, and we know it.   
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   > >> >Why do you suppose that would be?   
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   > >> Because you wouldn't want me to think you're both on the same team as I   
   do,   
   > >> and that you sometimes discuss things through email.   
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   > >If Ball took it into his head to email me for whatever reason, that   
   > >would not mean that "we sometimes discuss things through email",   
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   >     It seems most likely that you do though, from my pov.   
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   Your point of view lacks rational foundation.   
      
   Ball and I have never had any email exchanges, and you have no good   
   reason for thinking otherwise.   
      
   > >unless I chose to reply to him, and it would not mean that I have any   
   > >motivation to conceal the fact from you.   
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   >     From my position you both appear to be eliminationists, but Goo is lying   
   > about it and attempting very poorly to pretend to be a misnomer opponent   
   instead   
   > of what he actually is. However, his attempt is so very pathetic that from my   
   > pov Goo clearly appears to be a misnomer supporter who is lying about it. You   
   > appear to be one who is honest about it to whatever degree, but you're not   
   > honest enough to admit you and the Goober are on the same side and working   
   > together. Doing that would work against the whole idea, and you would never   
   do   
   > it unless possibly at some point you become an AW supporter INSTEAD OF an   
   > eliminationist and then you and Goo would be on opposing sides and you would   
   > then have reason to feel good about exposing Goo, but so far you don't.   
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   You've lost touch with reality.   
      
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   > >> >> >don't be stupid.   
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   > >> >> LOL...it would be stupid if I didn't take that possibility into   
   > >> >> consideration since from my pov it seems as or more likely than not.   
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   > >> >> >> He also lied that he hasn't been   
   > >> >> >> asked about his pissing in the past.   
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   > >> >> >Did he; where did he say that?   
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   > >> >> He lied about it and Ron pointed out that he was lying. Do you want to   
   think   
   > >> >> he's too honest to lie about that or what?   
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   > >> >> >> He also lied that it didn't take him a   
   > >> >> >> while to come up with his story about Slater. So it seems likely   
   enough he's   
   > >> >> >> lying about the cats too since he's lying about everything else.   
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   > >> >> >May this belief of yours bring you joy.   
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   > >> >> Goo's the one creating the impression that he lied about the cats by   
   lying   
   > >> >> about other things. I'm just going by the Goober's lies, and now also   
   the things   
   > >> >> you apparently don't want to believe your hero (Goo) is lying about.   
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   > >> >And you find the issue interesting?   
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   > >> I was curious about what I remembered to begin with, and now I'm curious   
   > >> about why Goo lied about some of the things he lied about. Why make up   
   > >> unecessary lies about things that don't really matter if he's not lying   
   about   
   > >> the main issue?   
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   > >So what you're saying is that you think that Ball probably   
   > >deliberately pissed on his floor and then posted to usenet about it?   
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   >     If he did the pissing he was probably so wasted when he did it the first   
   few   
   > times that he didn't realise what he was doing, and later figured it out but   
   > kept doing it since it had already been done several times.... Then he got in   
   > the habit of it for a while until one day the smell got so bad that he   
   decided   
   > to finally quit doing it, and then later found out how much trouble he set   
   > himself up for trying to get it to quit stinking. It makes more sense than   
   that   
   > cats had done it years ago or whatever and Goo just noticed it one day after   
   > having lived there for however long. We know Goo lies about his own quotes   
   as or   
   > more often than not...at least I'm aware of it even if you honestly aren't.   
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