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   On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 02:34:00 -0800 (PST), Rupert    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Nov 13, 10:42 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:09:39 -0800 (PST), Rupert    
   >> wrote:   
   >> >On Nov 6, 6:02 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 04:27:42 -0800 (PST), Rupert    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >On Nov 5, 9:57 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> >> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:16:38 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> >On Nov 1, 4:49 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:15:14 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   >> >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >On 29 Okt., 23:03, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:38:52 -0700 (PDT), Rupert    
   rupertmccal...@yahoo.com>   
   >> >> >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >> >On Oct 24, 9:36 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:32:51 -0700 (PDT), Rupert   
      
   >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Oct 24, 12:36 am, dh@. wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So far it appears clear that he is. Though Goo tried to   
   wuss it off as   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Slater forging something, it seems Slater copied Goo's   
   original post which Goo   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> later removed, and Slater presented again much to the   
   Goober's sorrow. It seems   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> unlikely that Goo it telling the truth about Slater   
   forging anything considering   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the fact that Goo has lied about several other little   
   things regarding the   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> topic. Why would Goo lie about little things if the big   
   thing were not itself a   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lie he thinks the little lies somehow support?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> >It's completely obvious that the post by Slater is a   
   forgery.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> If so then why does Goo lie about little things if the big   
   thing is not   
   >> >> >> >> >> >> itself a lie he thinks the little lies somehow support?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >> >What has he lied about?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >> For one thing Goo lied that I told you I knew Slater forged it,   
   when of   
   >> >> >> >> >> course I still don't know that and in fact it's looking more   
   and more like he   
   >> >> >> >> >> didn't as time goes along. If you're going to try to help the   
   Goober lie about   
   >> >> >> >> >> this (imo of course because of your admiration for him) then   
   you need to present   
   >> >> >> >> >> the evidence for it that Goo has been completely unable to   
   attempt presenting.   
   >> >> >> >> >> What Goo's trying to do is wuss away from it for however long   
   he waits, and then   
   >> >> >> >> >> he'll begin lying that it's already been presented and   
   hilariously suggest that   
   >> >> >> >> >> we go back and try to find it for him. Why do you want to   
   support Goo's lie   
   >> >> >> >> >> about this particular thing anyway, do you know?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> >I don`t wish to support anything Ball has said. I simply asked   
   you a   
   >> >> >> >> >question.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> You questioned him about it before, which of course was/is a   
   surprise to me.   
   >> >> >> >> Maybe he scolded you for it through email?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >Of course not;   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Of course that's what you would say if he did, and we know it.   
   >>   
   >> >> >Why do you suppose that would be?   
   >>   
   >> >> Because you wouldn't want me to think you're both on the same team as I   
   do,   
   >> >> and that you sometimes discuss things through email.   
   >>   
   >> >If Ball took it into his head to email me for whatever reason, that   
   >> >would not mean that "we sometimes discuss things through email",   
   >>   
   >>     It seems most likely that you do though, from my pov.   
   >   
   >Your point of view lacks rational foundation.   
      
       It sure does have.   
      
   >Ball and I have never had any email exchanges, and you have no good   
   >reason for thinking otherwise.   
      
       I do have reason since I consider you two to be on the same side.   
      
   >> >unless I chose to reply to him, and it would not mean that I have any   
   >> >motivation to conceal the fact from you.   
   >>   
   >>     From my position you both appear to be eliminationists, but Goo is lying   
   >> about it and attempting very poorly to pretend to be a misnomer opponent   
   instead   
   >> of what he actually is. However, his attempt is so very pathetic that from   
   my   
   >> pov Goo clearly appears to be a misnomer supporter who is lying about it.   
   You   
   >> appear to be one who is honest about it to whatever degree, but you're not   
   >> honest enough to admit you and the Goober are on the same side and working   
   >> together. Doing that would work against the whole idea, and you would never   
   do   
   >> it unless possibly at some point you become an AW supporter INSTEAD OF an   
   >> eliminationist and then you and Goo would be on opposing sides and you would   
   >> then have reason to feel good about exposing Goo, but so far you don't.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You've lost touch with reality.   
      
       IF you had good reason to expose Goo now you would do so, meaning that you   
   don't. IF you ever move on to an AW position instead of an elimination position   
   THEN you would have good reason to expose the Goober, but not unless that   
   happens which seems unlikely.   
      
   >> >> >> >don't be stupid.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> LOL...it would be stupid if I didn't take that possibility into   
   >> >> >> consideration since from my pov it seems as or more likely than not.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> He also lied that he hasn't been   
   >> >> >> >> asked about his pissing in the past.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >Did he; where did he say that?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> He lied about it and Ron pointed out that he was lying. Do you want   
   to think   
   >> >> >> he's too honest to lie about that or what?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> He also lied that it didn't take him a   
   >> >> >> >> while to come up with his story about Slater. So it seems likely   
   enough he's   
   >> >> >> >> lying about the cats too since he's lying about everything else.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >May this belief of yours bring you joy.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Goo's the one creating the impression that he lied about the cats by   
   lying   
   >> >> >> about other things. I'm just going by the Goober's lies, and now also   
   the things   
   >> >> >> you apparently don't want to believe your hero (Goo) is lying about.   
   >>   
   >> >> >And you find the issue interesting?   
   >>   
   >> >> I was curious about what I remembered to begin with, and now I'm curious   
   >> >> about why Goo lied about some of the things he lied about. Why make up   
   >> >> unecessary lies about things that don't really matter if he's not lying   
   about   
   >> >> the main issue?   
   >>   
   >> >So what you're saying is that you think that Ball probably   
   >> >deliberately pissed on his floor and then posted to usenet about it?   
   >>   
   >>     If he did the pissing he was probably so wasted when he did it the   
   first few   
   >> times that he didn't realise what he was doing, and later figured it out but   
   >> kept doing it since it had already been done several times.... Then he got   
   in   
   >> the habit of it for a while until one day the smell got so bad that he   
   decided   
      
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