XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.sport.football.college,   
   rec.food.cooking   
   XPost: alt.gothic   
      
   On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:18:20 -0700, Lord Infomouse    
   wrote:   
      
   >On 12/15/2012 10:37 AM, Goo wrote:   
   >> On 12/13/2012 12:27 PM, dh@. wrote:   
   >> Not for you it isn't - you can't give any valid assumptions.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> As long as the being wishes to remain alive life is of positive   
   >>> value.   
   >>   
   >> *FAIL*.  No livestock animal "wishes" anything.   
   >   
   >This is a baseless assertion which you cannot prove.  Additionally, I   
   >claim it is false.   
      
       Goo has made a number of seemingly stupid and clueless claims about   
   animals.   
   Here are some examples:   
      
   "Animals do not have a sense of insult." - Goo   
      
   "No non-human animals experience the emotion of anticipation" - Goo   
      
   "Dogs NEVER anticipate, nor do cats, or cattle, or   
   any other animal you've ever encountered." - Goo   
      
   "Animals do not experience frustration." - Goo   
      
   "No zygotes, animals, people, or any other living thing   
   benefits from coming into existence. No farm animals   
   benefit from farming." - Goo   
      
   "Animals cannot be or feel disappointed." - Goo   
      
   "Non human animals experience neither pride nor   
   disappointment.  They don't have the mental ability   
   to feel either." - Goo   
      
   "Darwin, a sentimental person, was projecting.  He   
   saw something that wasn't there.  He was, in a way,   
   hallucinating." - Goo   
      
   "The dog didn't do what Darwin said.  His statement of   
   the "changes in behavior" is not reliable." - Goo   
      
   "Anticipation requires language." - Goo   
      
   "No animals anticipate." - Goo   
      
   "Animals do not anticipate, Fuckwit.  That requires language-dependent   
   thought." - Goo   
      
   "Dogs, cats, cattle, almost all animals "lower" than   
   the great apes have no sense of self." - Goo   
      
   "They are not aware that they can see. " - Goo   
      
   "They are *not* aware that they can smell." - Goo   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)