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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.sport.football.college,   
   rec.food.cooking   
   XPost: alt.gothic   
   From: ei@o.com   
      
   "Mr. N.A.Cho"  wrote   
      
   > >>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position   
   > >>>>>>> they're in.   
   > >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their   
   pov   
   > >>>>>>> Goo. If   
   > >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different but   
   > >>>>>>> they're   
   > >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried, Goober.   
   >   
   > >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care about   
   > >>>>>>>>> the animals.   
   > >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but   
   > >>>>>>>>> then again he   
   > >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he   
   > >>>>>>>>> doesn't want   
   > >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his   
   lame   
   > >>>>>>>>> ass. You   
   > >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.   
   >   
   > >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and Rupert   
   > >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober   
   and   
   > >>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact   
   and   
   > >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to commit   
   > >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.   
   >   
   > >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's pushing   
   > >>>>>is his enemy.   
   >   
   > >>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the distinction   
   > >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.   
   >   
   > >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent   
   > >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit   
   > >>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as   
   > >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't   
   > >>>have too much negative value in it.   
   >   
   > >> Negative value caused by what, Goo?   
   >   
   > >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.   
   >   
   > >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is   
   > >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's   
   > >incoherent cracker bullshit.   
   >   
   > If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of   
   > positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems   
   > incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to   
   comprehend   
   > it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend   
   and so   
   > has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too   
   > stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to   
   > pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from   
   that?   
   > LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo???   
   Your   
   > pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you   
   as   
   > extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE stupid,   
   > Goo?   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > >>>>If not then he's mentally   
   > >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we all   
   could   
   > >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like   
   yourself is a   
   > >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic   
   animals   
   > >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of positive   
   and   
   > >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any   
   distinction   
   > >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF   
   that's   
   > >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated   
   and can't   
   > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and   
   wildlife it   
   > >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he can't   
   > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and   
   humans he   
   > >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...   
   >   
   > >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;   
   >   
   > >> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous by   
   > >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of   
   the   
   > >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and   
   discussed it   
   > >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he   
   "didn't   
   > >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of   
   negative   
   > >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible   
   > >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so   
   > >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or   
   walks   
   > >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special   
   > >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...   
   >   
   > >>>also bullshit   
   > >>>about "mentally restricted."   
   >   
   > >> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why he was   
   > >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's lying   
   >   
   > >No.   
   >   
   > LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there   
   > are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.   
   >   
   > >There is no "restriction"   
   >   
   > He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two   
   > alternatives Goob.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo?   
   If   
   > >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown   
   signs   
   > >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that   
   he's   
   > >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to   
   make   
   > >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?   
   >   
   > >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect. You are stupid.   
   > >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're   
   > >>>willfully even more stupid. You *choose* stupidity.   
   >   
   > >> You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If you   
   were   
   > >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your   
   > >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you   
   got   
   > >>less stupid Goob, even though after years of having it pointed out to you   
   you   
   > >>finally learned that there ARE NO pet food cattle much less any that are   
   raised   
   > >>for twelve years just for the purpose. MAYBE you finally learned that, but   
   then   
   > >>again maybe you still believe in them, Goo....you were stupid enough in   
   the past   
   > >>and are still as stupid as you were, so maybe you're stupid enough to STILL   
      
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