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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.sport.football.college,   
   rec.food.cooking   
   XPost: alt.gothic   
      
   On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 12:39:39 -0800 (PST), "Mr. N.A.Cho"   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Jan 2, 3:37 pm, dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:07:42 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >> >On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:10:52 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:35:25 -0800, Goo wussed:   
   >>   
   >> >>>On Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:04:29 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>>On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:09:30 -0800, Dutch  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>Lord Infomouse wrote:   
   >> >>>>>> On 12/24/2012 2:30 PM, dh@. wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>      They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position   
   >> >>>>>>> they're in.   
   >> >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF their   
   pov   
   >> >>>>>>> Goo. If   
   >> >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot different   
   but   
   >> >>>>>>> they're   
   >> >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried,   
   Goober.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care   
   about   
   >> >>>>>>>>> the animals.   
   >> >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point, but   
   >> >>>>>>>>> then again he   
   >> >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt he   
   >> >>>>>>>>> doesn't want   
   >> >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for his   
   lame   
   >> >>>>>>>>> ass. You   
   >> >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and   
   Rupert   
   >> >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than Goober   
   and   
   >> >>>>>> more adept at argument.  Goober likes to declare his opinion as fact   
   and   
   >> >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong.  Rupert is just afraid to   
   commit   
   >> >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's   
   pushing   
   >> >>>>>is his enemy.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>    Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the   
   distinction   
   >> >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.   
   >>   
   >> >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent   
   >> >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit   
   >> >>>tautologically.  That is completely true:  all you can offer as   
   >> >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that doesn't   
   >> >>>have too much negative value in it.   
   >>   
   >> >>    Negative value caused by what, Goo?   
   >>   
   >> >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.   
   >>   
   >> >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is   
   >> >tautological bullshit, *Goo*.  You can't give it any real meaning.  It's   
   >> >incoherent cracker bullshit.   
   >>   
   >>     If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of   
   >> positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems   
   >> incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to   
   comprehend   
   >> it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could comprehend   
   and so   
   >> has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too   
   >> stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want to   
   >> pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from   
   that?   
   >> LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid, Goo???   
   Your   
   >> pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg you   
   as   
   >> extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE   
   stupid,   
   >> Goo?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> >>>>If not then he's mentally   
   >> >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we   
   all could   
   >> >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like   
   yourself is a   
   >> >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all domestic   
   animals   
   >> >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of   
   positive and   
   >> >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any   
   distinction   
   >> >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife. IF   
   that's   
   >> >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals eliminated   
   and can't   
   >> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and   
   wildlife it   
   >> >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he   
   can't   
   >> >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock and   
   humans he   
   >> >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...   
   >>   
   >> >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;   
   >>   
   >> >>    It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous   
   by   
   >> >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one of   
   the   
   >> >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and   
   discussed it   
   >> >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he   
   "didn't   
   >> >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives of   
   negative   
   >> >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and incredible   
   >> >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's so   
   >> >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind, or   
   walks   
   >> >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special   
   >> >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...   
   >>   
   >> >>>also bullshit   
   >> >>>about "mentally restricted."   
   >>   
   >> >>    Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why   
   he was   
   >> >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's   
   lying   
   >>   
   >> >No.   
   >>   
   >>     LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there   
   >> are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.   
   >>   
   >> >There is no "restriction"   
   >>   
   >>     He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two   
   >> alternatives Goob.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why Goo?   
   If   
   >> >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has shown   
   signs   
   >> >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain that   
   he's   
   >> >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying to   
   make   
   >> >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?   
   >>   
   >> >>>You are the one suffering from a limited intellect.  You are stupid.   
   >> >>>You are congenitally stupid, and as if that weren't bad enough, you're   
   >> >>>willfully even more stupid.  You *choose* stupidity.   
   >>   
   >> >>    You're stupid enough to believe your pet food cow story Goober. If   
   you were   
   >> >>stupid enough to believe it for years even with people pointing out your   
   >> >>mistake, and since you WERE then you still ARE now Goo. It's not like you   
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