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   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.sport.football.college,   
   rec.food.cooking   
   XPost: alt.gothic   
   From: ThisSpaceForRent@mail.com   
      
   On Jan 4, 11:32 am, "The Undead Edward M. Kennedy"  wrote:   
   > "Mr. N.A.Cho"  wrote   
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   > > > >>>>>>> They do Goob, even though they're not aware of the position   
   > > > >>>>>>> they're in.   
   > > > >>>>>>> LOL...and that particular fact is a very significant part OF   
   their pov   
   > > > >>>>>>> Goo. If   
   > > > >>>>>>> they were aware of their own position it would be a lot   
   different but   
   > > > >>>>>>> they're   
   > > > >>>>>>> not and you couldn't make them aware of it even if you tried,   
   Goober.   
   >   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> It's just very surprising that he would admit he doesn't care   
   about   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> the animals.   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> I expect him to try lying that he actually does at some point,   
   but   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> then again he   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> might be afraid to say anything more about it at all. No doubt   
   he   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> doesn't want   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> to and that's why you being his brother have taken over for   
   his lame   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> ass. You   
   > > > >>>>>>>>> people are pathetic Goob...amusing, but pathetic.   
   >   
   > > > >>>>>> Part of the problem that I see is that you have made Goober and   
   Rupert   
   > > > >>>>>> both your enemies, where Rupert is clearly much smarter than   
   Goober and   
   > > > >>>>>> more adept at argument. Goober likes to declare his opinion as   
   fact and   
   > > > >>>>>> a lot of people know that he is wrong. Rupert is just afraid to   
   commit   
   > > > >>>>>> to any term or phrase that hasn't been laid out well.   
   >   
   > > > >>>>>Everybody who bothers to figure out what a load of bullshit he's   
   pushing   
   > > > >>>>>is his enemy.   
   >   
   > > > >>>> Rupert is bullshitting by claiming he can't comprehend the   
   distinction   
   > > > >>>>between lives of positive and negative value imo.   
   >   
   > > > >>>What Woopert has said, correctly, is that you can't give any coherent   
   > > > >>>meaning to "lives of possitive [sic] value" except to bullshit   
   > > > >>>tautologically. That is completely true: all you can offer as   
   > > > >>>explanation is that a life of possitive [sic] value is one that   
   doesn't   
   > > > >>>have too much negative value in it.   
   >   
   > > > >> Negative value caused by what, Goo?   
   >   
   > > > >The cruel treatment you advocate and personally inflict, *Goo*.   
   >   
   > > > >Your bullshit about "decent lives of possitive [sic] value" is   
   > > > >tautological bullshit, *Goo*. You can't give it any real meaning. It's   
   > > > >incoherent cracker bullshit.   
   >   
   > > > If you're too stupid to comprehend "the distinction between "lives of   
   > > > positive value" and "lives of negative value"" then that's why it seems   
   > > > incoherent to you Goo. You brother Rupert claims to be too stupid to   
   comprehend   
   > > > it, and now you do too. In the past you've pretended you could   
   comprehend and so   
   > > > has your brother Goob, but now you both want people to believe you're too   
   > > > stupid. LOL...you people are amusing.... So Goober, since you both want   
   to   
   > > > pretend you're too stupid to comprehend, what do you think you gain from   
   that?   
   > > > LOL...what do you think you gain by acting that clueless and stupid,   
   Goo??? Your   
   > > > pet food animals idea and your claim that life isn't a benefit both peg   
   you as   
   > > > extremely stupid Goob. What do you think you gain by acting even MORE   
   stupid,   
   > > > Goo?   
   >   
   > > > >>>>If not then he's mentally   
   > > > >>>>restricted in ways that no one in my sixth grade class was, since we   
   all could   
   > > > >>>>do it in sixth grade. Since he's an eliminationist we know he like   
   yourself is a   
   > > > >>>>maniacal extremist. He takes the extreme of wanting to see all   
   domestic animals   
   > > > >>>>eliminated, yet can't comprehend a distinction between lives of   
   positive and   
   > > > >>>>negative value so he claims. That means he can't appreciate any   
   distinction   
   > > > >>>>between the value of life for livestock, humans, pets, or wildlife.   
   IF that's   
   > > > >>>>really the case then since he wants to see domestic animals   
   eliminated and can't   
   > > > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for them and   
   wildlife it   
   > > > >>>>seems he should also want the elimination of wildlife too. Since he   
   can't   
   > > > >>>>appreciate any distinction between the value of life for livestock   
   and humans he   
   > > > >>>>should also want the elimination of humans. Etc...   
   >   
   > > > >>>There's that bullshit about your sixth grade class again;   
   >   
   > > > >> It was either fifth or sixth grade Goob and I'm being overly generous   
   by   
   > > > >>saying it was sixth. LOL... I'm thinking how funny it would be if one   
   of the   
   > > > >>kids was as stupid as Rupert... If we studied it in sixth grade and   
   discussed it   
   > > > >>with fifth graders, if one of the fifth graders was so stupid that he   
   "didn't   
   > > > >>believe the distinction between "lives of positive value" and "lives   
   of negative   
   > > > >>value" means anything"", I wonder if word of his handicap and   
   incredible   
   > > > >>stupidity would become common knowledge around the school because he's   
   so   
   > > > >>different like a kid who can't speak English, or who is color blind,   
   or walks   
   > > > >>with a bad limp, etc.... He probably would and would be in special   
   > > > >>ed...LOL...but here you people act like he's not stupid...LOL!!!...   
   >   
   > > > >>>also bullshit   
   > > > >>>about "mentally restricted."   
   >   
   > > > >> Goober Rupert is either HORRIBLY restricted which could explain why   
   he was   
   > > > >>stupid enough to become a misnomer addict in the first place, or he's   
   lying   
   >   
   > > > >No.   
   >   
   > > > LOL!!! Yes Goob, those are the only two possibilities that there   
   > > > are...LOL...it's amusing to think you might not even be aware of that.   
   >   
   > > > >There is no "restriction"   
   >   
   > > > He's either horribly restricted or lying, Goo. Those are the only two   
   > > > alternatives Goob.   
   >   
   > > > >>about being that stupid and he's really not. If he's lying, then why   
   Goo? If   
   > > > >>he's not lying he's horribly restricted mentally. But Goob, he has   
   shown signs   
   > > > >>that he's not that stupid in the past, meaning it's almost certain   
   that he's   
   > > > >>lying now. So we're left with: Why is he lying Goob? Why is he lying   
   to make   
   > > > >>himself look more horribly stupid than he honestly is, Goo?   
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