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   Message 18,539 of 19,117   
   dh@. to Goo   
   Re: Dietary ethics   
   16 Jan 13 15:20:45   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, Goo agreed:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, Goo lied:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, Goo lied extremely blatantly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>"Why do some people on one hand call for the extinction of a   
   species   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>while on the other hand lamenting the extinction of another?  Are   
   they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>not all equal?" - James Hepler   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you your "animals getting to experience life"   
   nonsense   
   >>>>>>>>>>>was bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>    He asked if the lives of wildlife and domestic animals should   
   not be   
   >>>>>>>>>>considered as equal Goob. That's what I suggest and what   
   eliminationists and   
   >>>>>>>>>>ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose, Goo.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you point blank that your "getting to experience   
   life"   
   >>>>>>>>>bullshit was pure bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    LOL!!!  A guy who asked "are they not all equal" supposedly is   
   opposed to   
   >>>>>>>>taking them into consideration. HILARIOUS! You are such a stupid   
   Goober, Goo.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>LOL!!!!!!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals getting to   
   >>>>>experience life" story is bullshit.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>       I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least they get to live"   
   >>>>>       argument only applies to HIM and humans, that animals don't   
   >>>>>       derive the benefit of getting to live   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    How do you think he disagrees with himself then Goo? Also Goober, which   
   >>>>animals or beings of any kind do you want us to think don't derive the   
   benefit   
   >>>>of getting to live, and why? Do you think any creatures DO derive the   
   benefit of   
   >>>>getting to live Goob, and if so what do you think is the distinction   
   between   
   >>>>them and livestock animals who you claim don't, do you have any idea?   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>>James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to live"   
   >>>gibberish is bullshit.   
   >>   
   >>    They do live Goo. Billions of them. Some of them have lives of positive   
   >>value and some of negative value, but you people can't appreciate or even   
   >>acknowledge the difference.   
   >   
   >No moral meaning to that   
      
       Not to YOU Goo, but it has much meaning to people who honestly favor decent   
   AW over elimination.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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