XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:25:25 -0800, Goo wrote:   
      
   >On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 18:05:48 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:40:27 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:20:45 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, Goo agreed:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, Goo lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, Goo lied extremely blatantly:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Why do some people on one hand call for the extinction of a   
   species   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>while on the other hand lamenting the extinction of another?    
   Are they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not all equal?" - James Hepler   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you your "animals getting to experience life"   
   nonsense   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    He asked if the lives of wildlife and domestic animals   
   should not be   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>considered as equal Goob. That's what I suggest and what   
   eliminationists and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>ONLY eliminationists have reason to oppose, Goo.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>James Hepler told you point blank that your "getting to   
   experience life"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>bullshit was pure bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>    LOL!!!  A guy who asked "are they not all equal" supposedly is   
   opposed to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>taking them into consideration. HILARIOUS! You are such a stupid   
   Goober, Goo.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>LOL!!!!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals getting to   
   >>>>>>>>>experience life" story is bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>       I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least they get to   
   live"   
   >>>>>>>>>       argument only applies to HIM and humans, that animals don't   
   >>>>>>>>>       derive the benefit of getting to live   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>    How do you think he disagrees with himself then Goo? Also Goober,   
   which   
   >>>>>>>>animals or beings of any kind do you want us to think don't derive the   
   benefit   
   >>>>>>>>of getting to live, and why? Do you think any creatures DO derive the   
   benefit of   
   >>>>>>>>getting to live Goob, and if so what do you think is the distinction   
   between   
   >>>>>>>>them and livestock animals who you claim don't, do you have any idea?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to live"   
   >>>>>>>gibberish is bullshit.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    They do live Goo. Billions of them. Some of them have lives of   
   positive   
   >>>>>>value and some of negative value, but you people can't appreciate or even   
   >>>>>>acknowledge the difference.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>No moral meaning to that   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Not to YOU Goo, but it has much meaning to people who honestly favor   
   decent   
   >>>>AW over elimination.   
   >>>   
   >>>It has no meaning   
   >>   
   >>    Goo people who honestly believe decent AW is ethically equivalent or   
   >>superior to elimination have no reason to oppose taking those same lives and   
   >>potential lives into consideration, you stupid STUPID Goober.   
   >   
   >The animals "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning   
      
       Of course it does Goo, and the fact that you have no clue how much it has   
   is   
   something else that exposes you.   
      
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