XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: george@si.not   
      
   On 2/4/2013 4:13 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon   
   for dog fighting, lied:   
   > On 1/30/2013 1:25 PM, George Plimpton wrote:> On 1/30/2013 12:13 PM, dh@.   
   wrote:   
   >>>> On 1/28/2013 3:56 PM,Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon   
   >>>> for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 1/22/2013 7:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/22/2013 3:37 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon   
   >>>>>> for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On 1/21/2013 7:25 PM, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/21/2013 3:05 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Goo* - convicted   
   >>>>>>>> felon   
   >>>>>>>> for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:40:27 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 15:20:45 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison -   
   >>>>>>>>>> *Goo* -   
   >>>>>>>>>> convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 13:38:50 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 15:34:23 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo*   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:44:48 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:38:03 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:47:39 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:29:54 -0500, Fuckwit David Harrison -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:15:49 -0800, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 15:16:39 -0500, Fuckwit David   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison -   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:23:26 -0800, George Plimpton   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 15:06:20 -0500, Fuckwit David   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting, lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:36:27 -0800, George Plimpton   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:48:46 -0500, Fuckwit David   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harrison - *Goo* - convicted felon for dog fighting,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lied:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:29:10 -0800, George Plimpton   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, and I forgot James Hepler.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [bullshit]   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you your "animals getting to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life" nonsense   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     He asked if   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you point blank that your "getting to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit was pure bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     LOL!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler did, of course, tell you your "animals   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience life" story is bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        I'm saying to David Harrison that his "at least they   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to live"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        argument only applies to HIM and humans, that animals   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        derive the benefit of getting to live   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     How do you think   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Hepler told you point-blank your "at least they get to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> live"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gibberish is bullshit.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>     They do live   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> No moral meaning to that, *Goo*, and James Hepler told you   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> so...as did   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Martin Martens, John Mercer, Felix, Swamp, diderot, Illinois   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Bowhunter,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> and Sue Bishop.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>     Not to YOU   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> It has no meaning, period - zero.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>      people who honestly believe decent AW   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The animals "getting to experience life" has no moral meaning to   
   >>>>>>>> anyone,   
   >>>>>>>> *Goo*.  That's just a fact - an indisputable fact.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Of course it does   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No, it has no moral meaning *at all*, *Goo*.  Everyone knows it -   
   >>>>>> including you.  You're just being pig-shit stubborn and stupid again.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It certainly has as much or more than their deaths   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, it does not.  It has *NO* meaning at all   
   >>>   
   >>>      It sure does and   
   >>   
   >> No.  It has no meaning at all, *Goo*.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> *Goo* - zero.  Their   
   >>>> deaths *do* have some meaning, because ending a life is morally   
   >>>> troubling.   
   >>>   
   >>>       It's hilarious in the   
   >>   
   >> No, *Goo*.   
   >>   
   >> The fact they "get to experience life" has no meaning, *Goo* - you have   
   >> admitted it, *Goo* - and *THEREFORE*, *Goo*, if they never live at all,   
   >> that has no meaning, either.  None.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>>> Changing the course of action so that some animal lives   
   >>>> don't happen is meaningless< *to the animals*.  It *cannot* have any   
   >>>> meaning to the animals that are not going to exist, Fuckwit.   
   >>>   
   >>>    but how it has meaning when they DO LIVE   
   >>   
   >> It doesn't.  "Getting to experience life" has no meaning "to the   
   >> animals", *Goo*.  There is nothing to consider about what's important   
   >> "to the animals", *Goo*   
   >>   
   >> In all this time, *Goo* - over 14 years - you have not been able to say   
   >> what is important "to the animals" about "getting to experience life",   
   >> because *nothing* is important about it, and *THEREFORE*, there is   
   >> nothing to consider.  You were done over 14 years ago, *Goo* - why have   
   >> you wasted all this time fighting a lost cause?   
   >   
   >      In contrast to that   
      
   No, *Goo*.  There is no "contrast" - LOL!!!! - at all.  You have never   
   been able to say what is important "to the animals" about "getting to   
   experience life", because *nothing* is important about it.  *BECAUSE*   
   there is no importance to it, *Goo*, there's nothing to consider.   
      
   You were done before you ever tried to learn to post to Usenet, *Goo*.   
      
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