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   Message 18,626 of 19,117   
   George Plimpton to Dutch   
   Re: 3D printed meat could soon be cheap    
   18 Mar 13 15:44:02   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.indian, alt.fan.jai-maharaj, alt.religion.hindu   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, can.politics   
   From: george@si.not   
      
   On 3/18/2013 3:27 PM, Dutch wrote:   
   > dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:06:00 -0700, Dutch  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> dh@. wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:25:58 -0700, Goo lied:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> There are   
   >>>>> some things he knows - for example, that existence *cannot* be a   
   >>>>> benefit   
   >>>>   
   >>>>       Goober not only do I not "know" it can't be a benefit, but   
   >>>> between your   
   >>>> whole little family of goobers none of you can suggest a single   
   >>>> thing that could   
   >>>> possibly prevent it from being one, Goo.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Ball thinks you know you're wrong. I disagree, I think you're just   
   >>> stupid.   
   >>   
   >>      Since none of you can say what you want us to think prevents it   
   >> from being a   
   >> benefit, I'm not the stupid one for not knowing what you want us to think   
   >> prevents it from being one. You're stupid for suggesting I am, and   
   >> you're stupid   
   >> for not being able to say what you want people to think prevents it   
   >> from being   
   >> one.   
   >   
   > You're stupid because it's been explained to you at least a hundred   
   > times and you still say that we can't do it.   
      
   LOL!  Every time we explain that the definition of benefit and the   
   observation of what effect coming into existence - "getting to   
   experience life" - has on welfare mean that existence *cannot* be a   
   benefit - by definition - Fuckwit keeps coming back and pretending to   
   ask what "prevents" it from being one, as if "getting to experience   
   life" /might/ be a benefit except for the actions of some agent.   
      
   This is like asking what "prevents" Fuckwit's niece from being his   
   grandfather.  There is no agent that prevents it; it is "prevented" by   
   the definitions of the terms.   
      
      
   > You don't even attempt to   
   > explain why you disagree with the explanations provided to you,   
      
   He *doesn't* disagree with them.  He *know* that "getting to experience   
   life" is not - *cannot be - a benefit.  He's just fucking around, as   
   Derek showed:   
      
        I see stuff like it all the time, and in real life I often can't   
        make a big deal about stupid things that have a negative influence   
        on me, whether I have a good point about it or not. But in these   
        ngs I can point things out, and tough shit if the other guy doesn't   
        like it. So these places are a place to take out frustration.   
      
        David Harrison 25 May 2009  http://tinyurl.com/ye6zsv8   
      
      
   Apparently, Fuckwit finds it relieves his "frustration" to pretend to be   
   ignorant of things that have been proved to him beyond dispute.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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