XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, can.politics   
   From: george@si.not   
      
   On 9/5/2013 5:21 PM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   > On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:13:30 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 9/5/2013 3:00 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:59:26 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> There is no importance at all to the "getting".  If some livestock   
   >>>> animals "get to experience life", that isn't good for them; and if no   
   >>>> livestock animals "get to experience life", that isn't bad for any   
   >>>> animals.  If livestock animals exist, then experiencing a good life is   
   >>>> better for them than experiencing a bad life.  It is not "better" for   
   >>>> the animals to experience a good life than never to live at all.   
   >>>   
   >>> The question is whether it is good for us humans to have domestic animals,   
   and   
   >>   
   >> No, that isn't the question.   
   >   
   > Still think there's no harm in pullin' wings offa flies, eh?   
      
   That isn't the topic, either.   
      
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