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   Message 18,715 of 19,117   
   dh@. to Goo   
   Re: Animals' "getting to experience life   
   06 Sep 13 17:18:31   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, can.politics   
      
   On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 07:13:30 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   .   
   >On 9/5/2013 3:00 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:59:26 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> There is no importance at all to the "getting".  If some livestock   
   >>> animals "get to experience life", that isn't good for them; and if no   
   >>> livestock animals "get to experience life", that isn't bad for any   
   >>> animals.  If livestock animals exist, then experiencing a good life is   
   >>> better for them than experiencing a bad life.  It is not "better" for   
   >>> the animals to experience a good life than never to live at all.   
   >>   
   >> The question is whether it is good for us humans to have domestic animals,   
   and   
   >   
   >No, that isn't the question.   
      
       That is ALL you care about Goober. You claim to eat meat:   
   _________________________________________________________   
   "I eat meat." - Goo   
      
   "I consume meat.  I consume it daily - I can't even remember a day in my life   
   when I didn't." - Goo   
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   
   while you maniacally oppose giving any consideration to the lives of the   
   animals   
   you dishonestly imo claim you consume:   
   _________________________________________________________   
   "Life "justifying" death is the   
   stupidest goddamned thing you ever wrote." - Goo   
      
   The statements below are all true.   
   Message-ID:    
      
   "NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo   
      
   "There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting   
   to experience life" - Goo   
      
   "Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo   
      
   ""Getting to experience life" has no significance." - Goo   
      
   "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral   
   consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing   
   of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral   
   consideration, and gets it." - Goo   
      
   ""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of   
   their deaths" - Goo   
      
   "Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"   
   (in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for   
   killing them." - Goo   
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   
   You may or may not eat meat but I believe you're lying and that you're some   
   sort   
   of veg*n eliminationist Goob. Whether you really do eat a tiny bit of meat from   
   time to time or whether you don't though Goober, we KNOW you don't give the   
   animals' lives any consideration and you are maniacally opposed to anyone else   
   considering the life of any animal raised for food:   
      
   "no matter its quality of live" - Goo   
      
   All you claim to care about is the products with no consideration for the   
   animals' lives or the quality of their lives because and only because   
   considering that aspect works against elimination, Goo.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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