XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, can.politics   
   From: george@si.not   
      
   On 9/6/2013 2:18 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,   
   illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and   
   doing nothing but wasting time ever since, lied:   
      
   > On 9/5/2013 7:13 AM, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >> On 9/5/2013 3:00 AM, Dhu on Gate wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 00:59:26 -0700, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> There is no importance at all to the "getting".  If some livestock   
   >>>> animals "get to experience life", that isn't good for them; and if no   
   >>>> livestock animals "get to experience life", that isn't bad for any   
   >>>> animals.  If livestock animals exist, then experiencing a good life is   
   >>>> better for them than experiencing a bad life.  It is not "better" for   
   >>>> the animals to experience a good life than never to live at all.   
   >>>   
   >>> The question is whether it is good for us humans to have domestic   
   >>> animals, and   
   >>   
   >> No, that isn't the question.   
   >   
   >      That is ALL you   
      
   No, *Gloo*.  The question is if there is anything to "consider" about   
   livestock animals "getting to experience life" versus never existing,   
   and we have seen that the answer to the question is "no."   
      
   You're just wasting time, *Gloo*.  You lost.  Go do something else.   
      
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