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   From: george@si.not   
      
   On 9/30/2013 1:06 PM, Beans-- wrote:   
   > Jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. is so uninformed on real history as to be   
   > taken by this nonsense:   
   >   
   > "The legend that one hundred odd English men and women who   
   > landed at Plymouth Harbor feasted on turkey and all the   
   > trimmings is a myth. When they first arrived, on November   
   > 11 1620, the settlers had so little food that they raised   
   > the houses of the Native American inhabitants and made   
   > off with stores of beans and corn. There was simply no   
   > animal flesh to be had. It is likely that the first   
   > Thanksgiving would have had to have been a vegan one,"   
   >   
   > Now let us consult what we really know from documents of the time:   
   >   
   > 'What Was on the Menu at the First Thanksgiving',   
   >   
   > an article in the Smithsonian magazine:   
   >   
   > Today, the traditional Thanksgiving dinner includes any number of   
   > dishes: turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, candied yams, cranberry   
   > sauce and pumpkin pie. But if one were to create a historically   
   > accurate feast, consisting of only those foods that historians are   
   > certain were served at the so-called "first Thanksgiving," there would   
   > be slimmer pickings. "Wildfowl was there. Corn, in grain form for bread   
   > or for porridge, was there. Venison was there," says Kathleen Wall.   
   > "These are absolutes."   
   >   
   > Two primary sources--the only surviving documents that reference the   
   > meal--confirm that these staples were part of the harvest celebration   
   > shared by the Pilgrims and Wampanoag at Plymouth Colony in 1621. Edward   
   > Winslow, an English leader who attended, wrote home to a friend:   
   >   
   > "Our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling,   
   > that so we might after a special manner rejoice together after we had   
   > gathered the fruit of our labors. They four in one day killed as much   
   > fowl as, with a little help beside, served the company almost a week.   
   > At which time, amongst other recreations, we exercised our arms, many   
   > of the Indians coming amongst us, and among the rest their greatest   
   > king Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we   
   > entertained and feasted, and they went out and killed five deer, which   
   > they brought to the plantation and bestowed on our governor, and upon   
   > the captain and others."   
      
   Exactly.  Jay Stevens, the jyotishithead, is full of shit.   
      
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