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   From: george@si.not   
      
   On 10/4/2013 1:04 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,   
   illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and   
   doing nothing but wasting time ever since, confessed and *lost again*:   
      
   > On 10/3/2013 6:35 PM, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >> On 10/3/2013 4:00 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,   
   >> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and   
   >> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, confessed and *lost again*:   
   >>   
   >>> On 10/2/2013 1:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/2/2013 12:22 PM, Fuckwit David Harrison - *Gloo* - stupid,   
   >>>> illiterate cracker and convicted felon, defeated entirely in 1999 and   
   >>>> doing nothing but wasting time ever since, confessed and *lost again*:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> We could also consider that animals   
   >>>>> raised for food aren't simply "killed" as the animals in crop fields   
   >>>>> are, but   
   >>>>> instead they experience whatever life they do, some of them good and   
   >>>>> some of   
   >>>>> them not good, ONLY because humans raise them for food.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Meaningless.  Their "experiencing" of life is not morally considerable.   
   >>>> It has no moral importance at all.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This is what I meant by you having no case, Fuckwit.  While what you   
   >>>> wrote is true, it is trivial.  It has no bearing on the ethical decision   
   >>>> of whether or not we *ought* to raise animals for food.  It offers no   
   >>>> clarity or ethical guidance at all.  It's a complete waste of time.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You have no case.  You are not a man.   
   >>>   
   >>>      Why don't you feel that way about considering the killing   
   >>   
   >> Because the animal was alive up to the point it was killed, Fuckwit.   
   >> *Once* it is alive, then its life has moral meaning.  Merely having some   
   >> prospect of existing has no moral meaning.   
   >   
   >      ONLY because it was raised for food   
      
   Irrelevant, of course.   
      
      
   >> I get this, and you don't.   
   >   
   >      If you think you do then   
      
   I do, and you don't.  You've admitted it.   
      
   You are not a man.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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