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   Colin Eyetis to All   
   YouTube shooting unleashes Silicon Valle   
   05 Apr 18 08:28:41   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: alt.society.liberalism   
   From: google-fags@google.com   
      
   SAN BRUNO — The deadly shooting at the YouTube headquarters   
   Tuesday highlighted the tension between Silicon Valley’s   
   tradition of free-wheeling creativity and the demands for   
   heightened security in our increasingly unsettled world.   
      
   The tech industry has thrived in an atmosphere of collegiality   
   and open communication. Yet experts worry that openness might   
   wind up being squelched if tech firms feel the need to retreat   
   into isolated compounds designed to ward off intruders and   
   violence.   
      
   Security concerns at Silicon Valley’s technology campuses go   
   back decades. The industry confronted these same tensions when   
   an Adobe Systems co-founder was kidnapped outside Adobe’s old   
   headquarters in 1992 and four years earlier, when a man draped   
   himself with 98 pounds of guns and ammunition and murdered co-   
   workers in Sunnyvale.   
      
   “There are so many things in Silicon Valley that create   
   pressure,” said Gary Dillabough, a managing partner with the   
   Navitas Group and The Westley Group venture capital firms. “We   
   want to make sure we don’t just put people in isolated silos. We   
   need to foster and create an open community.”   
      
   Nevertheless, more tech companies may seek ways to heighten   
   security, now that the recent rash of gun violence across the   
   nation has manifested itself here. On Tuesday, industry leaders   
   were not yet willing to engage the discussion, but local experts   
   on security said they expect a vigorous debate.   
      
   “This can be a challenge,” said Robert Costa, president of   
   Hayward-based South County Security Services. “People and   
   employees want the freedom to come and go. But employers may   
   want something completely different. Security experts have to   
   help find a balance.”   
      
   Security companies regularly scrutinize how to reconcile these   
   often competing goals.   
      
   “That balance is an area that we constantly revisit,” said John   
   Spesak, chief executive officer with Security Industry   
   Specialists, a Culver City-based security company with offices   
   in San Jose. “We have an ongoing dialogue about this balance.”   
   Security Industry Specialists provides security services for   
   numerous Silicon Valley companies.   
      
   The tension can put human rights in conflict with security,   
   warned Edward Del Beccaro, a senior managing director with   
   Transwestern, a commercial realty brokerage that manages   
   millions of square feet of offices and other buildings   
   nationwide.   
      
   “The challenge is: How do we keep an open system and protect our   
   liberties at the same time we have security systems in place   
   that can identify dangerous people?” Del Beccaro said. “There is   
   going to be a tension between civil liberty, privacy and   
   security. We have to maintain our liberties. But how do you   
   prevent all-too-human people from taking out their anger on   
   others?”   
      
   Security concerns of a different sort have never been far from   
   Silicon Valley’s front burner. The industry has long understood   
   the need to guard the precious technology whose theft could   
   damage or even ruin a tech company.   
      
   But when issues of human safety arose, the valley reeled. In   
   1992, an Adobe Systems executive, Charles Geschke, was kidnapped   
   from a parking lot next to Adobe’s offices in Mountain View.   
   Geschke was freed unharmed a few days later, after being held   
   for ransom in Hollister.   
      
   That company later moved its headquarters to a far more secure   
   downtown San Jose high-rise.   
      
   In 1988, Richard Wade Farley blasted through numerous offices of   
   military contractor ESL, killing seven co-workers in a shooting   
   spree rooted in his obsession with a female co-worker, who was   
   badly wounded in the shooting but survived.   
   The rash of fatal shootings around the country will only serve   
   to intensify the discussion about how much security can become   
   too much intrusion, some experts said.   
      
   “Given the darkness that many of these recent events have shown   
   all of us, the importance of the dialogue is clear,” Spesak said.   
       
   Comments:   
      
   Hans Gruber • 6 hours ago   
   Maybe--just maybe--if your business model is aligned with   
   creating a revenue opportunity for third parties, you damn well   
   better have a transparent process when you change those policies   
   and reduce individuals' income. AND an appeals process that   
   isn't managed by drones from India. I'd also suggest that   
   censorship, as a business model, is always going to fail (the   
   shooter in this case apparently felt that since an an age   
   warning was put on her material, she was losing revenue).   
      
   It is ironic, though, that as YouTube clamps down on gun videos--   
   almost all technology-focused by dorks who just like taking   
   things apart on camera--the authors have simply gone to other   
   media. It takes a PETA activist to go shoot up the place. That   
   should be a learning moment for us all.   
      
   https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/03/youtube-shooting-   
   unleashes-silicon-valley-liberty-vs-security-debate/   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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