XPost: england.genealogy.misc, england.history.misc, soc.genealogy.britain   
   XPost: soc.history, alt.genealogy   
   From: rail@greywall.demon.co.uk   
      
   On 24/10/2015 09:12, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:   
   > In message , Steve Hayes   
   >  writes:   
   >> On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 08:04:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> In message <0m4m2blnpj3el62hehob679o1danln696u@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes   
   >>>  writes:   
   >>> []   
   >>>> A new genetic map of Britain shows that there has been little movement   
   >>>> between areas of Britain which were former tribal kingoms in   
   >>>> Anglo-Saxon England   
   > []   
   >>> It would be interesting to have another study taken without the   
   >>> restriction, to see how things _have_ changed since "mass migration".   
   >>   
   >> I think the restriction would have been necessary to discover what   
   >> they had changed *from*.   
   >>   
   >> If you want to find the DNA of a particular area, it makes little   
   >> sense to test the DNA of people who *have* migrated from elsewhere.   
   >> Only when yopu've established the base can you work out where the   
   >> others may have migrated from.   
   >>   
   > I agree, and this first study is certainly useful. I was just a little   
   > cross with the headline ("there has been little movement"), since it is   
   > misleading (though probably pleasing to the target audience).   
      
   There have been earlier studies which have come to much the same   
   conclusion so I am not sure what is so different about the current one.   
     There's even a book, called The Tribes of Britain which goes into it   
   at great length.  Basically it refutes the classical ideas that the   
   Celts retreated westward into Wales and Cornwall under pressure from   
   first the Romans and later the Anglo-Saxon, Viking and even Norman   
   invasions.  Arguing that the peasant classes remained on their lands   
   while the leaders may well have been routed or killed.  Given there was   
   little mixing between the ruling and peasant classes in either society   
   then one would expect exactly this result.   
      
      
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