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|    05 Jul 17 07:53:16    |
      XPost: alt.politics.radical-left, alt.drugs.heroin, alt.journalism.criticism       XPost: alt.arguments       From: eddie.lynch@outlook.com              Act like niggers, get treated like niggers.              What started as a joyous ride through wine county Saturday       afternoon turned into a “humiliating” experience for 11 African       American women, who said they were booted off the Napa Valley       Wine Train for laughing and talking too loud.              Accounts and pictures of the episode have been spreading across       social media, spawning the hashtag #LaughingWhileBlack while the       women involved have questioned whether they would have been       treated differently if they were not African American.              “It was humiliating. I’m really offended to be quite honest,”       said 47-year-old Lisa Johnson, who was among Saturday’s group.       “I felt like it was a racist attack on us. I feel like we were       being singled out.”              The women have since been given a full refund by the train       company, but continue to seek a public apology.              In a statement Sunday, Napa Valley Wine Train spokeswoman Kira       Devitt said the company “received complaints from several       parties in the same car and after three attempts from staff,       requesting that the group keep the noise to an acceptable level,       they were removed from the train and offered transportation back       to the station in Napa.              The incident began when Johnson and her book club, the Sisters       on the Reading Edge, embarked around 11 a.m. for their annual       trip through wine country — an adventure they had been planning       since November.              Johnson, a self-described social media fanatic, posted pictures       on Facebook, documenting the entire episode as it unfolded.              The women — all wearing matching T-shirts — were all seated in       the same car in adjacent tables and seats, laughing and having a       good time. They and the other passengers on the sold-out train       were ordering tastings and glasses of wine as they rode the 18-       mile stretch from Napa to St. Helena through California’s most       famous and picturesque vineyards and wineries.              And while the group — which included an 83-year-old grandmother       — may at times have been “rambunctious,” they were not       “obnoxious or intoxicated,” Johnson said.              Several passengers, she said, even came up to them to take       pictures, and asked about the romance novel they were reading       for their club.              But a short while into their trip, Johnson said a manager on the       train asked them to pipe it down.              “The train is set up to be with your friends, to drink wine and       have a good time,” Johnson said. “We were thinking, ‘Who are we       offending?’”              Later on, Johnson said the manager told them that “this isn’t       going to work,” and that if they didn’t “tone it down,” they       were going to be asked to get off the train.              “It was a bizarre thing for all of us,” she said, adding that       many in the group quieted down and wondered what had happened.       According to Johnson, one of the women in the same car told the       group “this isn’t a bar.”              “And we though, um, yes it is,” Johnson said.              What came next, she said, was the worst part of the afternoon.       When the train pulled into the St. Helena station, the group had       to do the “walk of shame” as they were escorted past passengers       on the six other cars, Johnson said. At the station, the group       was met by officers from the Napa Valley Railroad and St. Helena       police departments.              “People were looking at us,” Johnson said. “To get escorted into       the hands of waiting police officers. That’s the humiliating       part.”              But Chief Jeff Hullquist of the Napa Valley Railroad Police       Department said there “was no police action taken” at the       station.       “When someone is removed from a train, they have to be dropped       off at a station, and our policy is if someone is let off the       train we’ll stand by,” he said. “We keep them safe until someone       can get them.”              “The Napa Valley Wine Train does not enjoy removing guests from       our trains, but takes these things very seriously in order to       ensure the enjoyment and safety of all of our guests,” Devitt       said, adding that about once a month guests need to be removed       from the train.              Johnson said despite their treatment on the ride, the company       has worked with them. They were given a refund, provided with       free pictures, and a van was sent to pick them up.              “The people in the station were absolutely wonderful,” she said,       ready to let the incident go.              But that’s when someone from the company posted an account of       the incident on Facebook. Johnson was miffed.              “Following verbal and physical abuse toward other guests and       staff, it was necessary to get our police involved,” the since-       deleted post reads in part, which Johnson captured in a screen       grab and re-posted to Facebook. “Many groups come on board and       celebrate. When those celebrations impact our other guests, we       do intervene.”              The post was quickly taken down and the company reached out to       the women to make amends, she said.              Devitt said the company is “conducting an internal audit to make       sure all of our policies were followed and options were offered.”              “They knew they were out of place,” Johnson said, but added that       she “wants a public apology for the humiliations they caused to       us as professional women.”              Evan Sernoffsky is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-       mail: esernoffsky@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @EvanSernoffsky              http://www.chron.com/news/article/Black-women-humiliated-after-       getting-kicked-6460912.php                      --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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