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   Obama - Enemy Of The USA to All   
   Bill Maher blasts liberals for defending   
   05 Jul 17 08:19:04   
   
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   From: time-for-obama-to-go@splc.org   
      
   Late-night talk show host Bill Maher on Friday criticized   
   liberals for defending Muslim refugees without acknowledging   
   they embrace values that are at odds with American societal   
   values.   
      
   Citing a poll showing 53 percent of Americans believed Syrian   
   refugees have values that are at odd with American values, Mr.   
   Maher said, “that may not be wrong.”   
      
   “If you are in this religion, you probably do have values that   
   are at odds,” he said, Mediaite reported. “This is what liberals   
   don’t want to recognize.”   
      
   He argued that many refugees may come from place that have   
   Sharia law or want to invoke Sharia law and pointed to cases in   
   the U.K. where Muslim immigrants have carried out brutal   
   traditions such as female genital mutilation and honor killings,   
   forsaking Western values.   
      
   “This idea that somehow we do share values that all religions   
   are alike is bull–-,” Mr. Maher said, Mediaite reported.   
      
   Canadian author and politician Chrystia Freeland strongly   
   disagreed with Mr. Maher, arguing that the Paris attacks should   
   be a rallying call for the West to stand up for diversity in the   
   face of the Islamic State terrorist group’s attempts to create   
   fear.   
      
   “We are not going to say that Muslims are worse than Jews or are   
   worse than Christians or atheists,” Ms. Freeland said.   
      
   “Not as people, the ideas are worse,” Mr. Maher shot back.   
      
   “No and their culture is not worse, and we also appreciate that   
   ISIL does not represent Muslims,” Ms. Freeland said, using an   
   acronym for the Islamic State. “And it’s now more important than   
   ever to say that and to stand up for diversity.”   
      
   Sen. Angus King, Maine independent, said that he agreed that the   
   U.S. needs to stand up for American values and not tolerate   
   behavior that is not normally accepted in Western culture, but   
   said the Islamic State wants “to get us to clamp down on all   
   Muslims regardless of who they are where they are and push them   
   into the ISIS camp.”   
      
   Ms. Freeland argued that you can’t change extreme Islamic   
   perspective by broadly saying Muslim ideas are bad, to which Mr.   
   Maher retorted that he was trying to stand up for moderate   
   Muslims by having a debate about Islam’s extremist ideologies.   
      
   “Killing women for being raped, I would say is a bad idea,” Mr.   
   Maher said, Mediaite reported.   
      
   http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/21/bill-maher-   
   blasts-liberals-defending-islam-muslims/   
        
      
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