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|    Steve Hayes to simo.runnel@gmail.com    |
|    Re: Carlyle    |
|    11 Sep 17 05:27:24    |
      From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net              On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 23:53:29 -0700 (PDT), simo.runnel@gmail.com wrote:              >How popular is Thomas Carlyle in the world today?       >I have translated his books "Past and Present" and "On Heroes, Hero-Worship,       and The Heroic in History".              I don't think I've read anything by Carlyle.              But G.K. Chesterton mentions him:              "Much vague and sentimental journalism has been poured out to the       effect that Christianity is akin to democracy, and most of it is       scarcely strong or clear enough to refute the fact that the two things       have often quarrelled. The real ground upon which Christianity and       democracy are one is very much deeper. The one specially and       peculiarly un-Christian idea is the idea of Carlyle -- the idea that       the man should rule who feels that he can rule. Whatever else is       Christian, this is heathen. If our faith comments on government at       all, its comment must be this -- that the man should rule who does       NOT think that he can rule. Carlyle's hero may say, "I will be king";       but the Christian saint must say "Nolo episcopari." If the great       paradox of Christianity means anything, it means this -- that we       must take the crown in our hands, and go hunting in dry places and       dark corners of the earth until we find the one man who feels himself       unfit to wear it. Carlyle was quite wrong; we have not got to crown       the exceptional man who knows he can rule. Rather we must crown the       much more exceptional man who knows he can't."                     --       Steve Hayes       http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm       http://khanya.wordpress.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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