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|    UK's north-south divide dates back to Vi    |
|    16 Oct 17 06:50:16    |
      XPost: soc.genealogy.britain, soc.history       From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net              UK’s north-south divide dates back to Vikings, says archaeologist              Watford Gap discovered to be key geographical divide between invaders       and Anglo-Saxons              Dalya Alberge              Monday 16 October 2017 00.04 BST       Last modified on Monday 16 October 2017 00.33 BST              The north-south divide has been the butt of jokes in Britain for       years, but research has shown the Watford Gap, which separates the       country, was in fact established centuries ago when the Vikings       invaded Britain.              According to the archaeologist Max Adams, who made the discovery while       researching his new book, the Northamptonshire-Warwickshire boundary       known as the Watford Gap is a geographic and cultural reality that can       be traced back to the Viking age.              Adams was struck by the absence of Scandinavian placenames south-west       of Watling Street, the Roman road that became the A5. “There might be       one or two names, but I don’t think there are any, and there are       certainly hundreds and hundreds north-east. Clearly the Scandinavian       settlers stopped at Watling Street,” Adams said.              “I began to notice that all the rivers’ sources stop pretty much on       the line of Watling Street. North-east of that line, all the rivers       flow into the Irish Sea or the North Sea. South and west of it, they       all flow into the Severn or the Thames.”              Map of Viking Britain              He added: “Roman engineers constructing the route between London       [Londinium] and the important town of Wroxeter [Viroconium], in what       is now Shropshire, chose this ancient line, and it became Watling       Street. In the Viking period it became the boundary for a treaty       between King Alfred and the Viking leader Guthrum. Connecting the West       Midlands with the south-east, it runs through a narrow pass between       hills, the Watford Gap.              “I’m not sure whether people on the north side of Watling Street       immediately feel themselves different or whether that’s more of a       southern joke. But clearly it’s a joke with a very old reality       attached to it.              “These days, we’re unaware of which way rivers face and where they       flow out to. It doesn’t make any odds to us. We just put bridges over       them. But, for most of history, such things have mattered. Your       natural trading routes are along rivers and all the medieval monastic       estates used the rivers as their arteries of power. So clearly the       geography of power has always mattered … Geographically, it slaps you       in the face as soon as you figure it out.”              He explained that the Anglo-Saxon kings eventually fortified that line       and made it a frontier in the early 10th-century reigns of Eadweard       the Elder and his sister Æthelflæd: “So, in a sense, they reinforced       the reality of that piece of geography and it seems to have been with       us ever since.”              “In 1959, when the M1 was first built, the Watford Gap was its end       point – the butt of north-south divide jokes ever since,” said Adams.       The M1 service station’s unofficial status as the country’s dividing       point was celebrated in 2009 with the unveiling of a new road sign,       with one arrow pointing north and another pointing south. Previously       called the Blue Boar, the service station became famous as an       early-morning hangout for The Beatles and the Rolling Stones, among       millions of travellers who were fed and watered there. Linguists have       since identified it as the boundary between northern and southern       English.              But boundaries are certainly blurred, Adams said: “We find it bizarre       that, on the news last night, people were talking about Cheshire as       the north … Routinely, politicians describe Hadrian’s Wall as if it       was the border between England and Scotland. Well, there’s another 60       miles of England beyond Hadrian’s Wall.”              Adams has excavated widely in Britain and abroad, and he will include       his research in a forthcoming book, titled Aelfred’s Britain: War and       Peace in the Viking Age, to be published by Head of Zeus on 2       November. It is a companion volume to his previous early medieval       histories, The King in the North and In the Land of Giants.              In the new book, he notes that, before the second decade of the 10th       century was out, new fortresses or burhs were constructed at 19 sites       strung out on a broad line between the Thames and the Mersey,       unmistakable in their offensive purpose. That line roughly follows       Watling Street.              “It has an ancient and continuing geographic distinction, barely       noticed by today’s midlanders. Broadly speaking, to the north-east       all the rivers flow into the Wash or North Sea on the east side, or       the Irish Sea on the west. To the south and west every river drains       into either Severn or Thames. This is England’s natural fault line,       its continental divide: the watershed that divided and divides north       from south (epitomised by the famous Watford Gap, on the A5/M1       north-east of Daventry); and I have no doubt that Scandinavian armies       and settlers knew its imperatives.”              https://t.co/3vjGNfZr7H                     --       Steve Hayes       Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/        http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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