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|    The Chief Castrator Of The Jews to Steve Hayes    |
|    Re: Winnie Mandela was a hero. If she'd     |
|    16 Apr 18 11:29:39    |
      From: Codebreaker@bigsecret.com              On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 12:56:19 AM UTC-4, Steve Hayes wrote:       > Winnie Mandela was a hero. If she’d been white, there would be no       > debate       >        > Afua Hirsch       >        > Tue 3 Apr 2018 15.00 BST       > Last modified on Tue 3 Apr 2018 22.00 BST       >        > Heroes are curious things. Ours have roots in the ancient Graeco-Roman       > sense of the concept, which places a premium on military victory.       > What’s problematic is how many of our heroes embody an inherent level       > of violence, as is unsurprisingly the case with people whose main       > accomplishments arise from war. We are tolerant about people who       > regarded the working classes as an abomination (Wellington), the       > transatlantic slave trade as a good idea (Nelson) or Indians as       > repulsive (Churchill), because we think the ends – defeating Napoleon       > or Hitler – justified the means.       >        > Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, as the press coverage of her death this       > week shows, is not entitled to the same rose-tinted eulogy as our       > white British men. She is “controversial” and a “bully”. One       newspaper       > columnist was boldly willing to abandon his usual restraint in not       > writing ill of the dead specially for this “odious, toxic individual”.       >        > The media reports have raised the horrific murder of 14-year-old       > Stompie Moeketsi, though few have been unduly troubled by the fact       > that this was a crime she always denied any involvement in, or by the       > ample evidence of the lengths to which the apartheid regime went to       > infiltrate and smear her and her followers.       > South Africa's 'Mother of the Nation', Winnie Madikizela-Mandela dies       > - video       >        > Sadly, I suspect much of the newly discovered outrage sparked by       > Madikizela-Mandela’s death has little to do with any recent conversion       > to the cause of Black Lives Matter, or accompanying grief for the fate       > of little Stompie – one of so many black children who lost their lives       > during the brutality of apartheid and the struggle against it. What       > it’s really about is a reluctance to admit that apartheid was so       > wrong, and so entrenched; and that without the resilience and vision       > of Madikizela-Mandela, and those of her ilk, it would not have been       > brought down.       >        > Britain’s heroes are allowed to have waged war. The warriors against       > white supremacist oppression, on the other hand, are not. When, for       > instance, I questioned Piers Morgan over the appropriateness of having       > a 50-metre column in Trafalgar Square to commemorate Admiral Nelson,       > he spat that Nelson Mandela has a statue despite being a “terrorist”.       > When I debated with a renowned naval historian over his adulation of       > the admiral, the argument wound its way to Haiti – the only example in       > history of slaves successfully overthrowing their masters and       > establishing their own republic – and whether this was a victory for       > the enslaved over their oppressors (my view) or a tragedy for the       > plantation owners who were killed in the process (his).       >        > There is no end to the contortions in our psyche. Who now – outside       > South Africa, where I have heard its demise lamented more than once –       > would defend the apartheid regime? It’s easy to condemn in hindsight.       > Yet we have forgotten what it actually takes to overthrow such tyranny       > when the legal and moral force of a sovereign state was on the side of       > white supremacy. Columnists did not cut it. Activists could not have       > done it. Peaceful protest did not do it. Sports boycotts, books,       > badges and car boot sales did not do it. It took revolutionaries, pure       > and simple. People willing to break the law, to kill and be killed.       >        > Our ambivalence about apartheid is the elephant in the room        >        > It took women such as Winnie Madikizela-Mandela. She was, as the       > world’s media have had to be repeatedly reminded this week, not an       > “activist”: she was a leader in a liberation struggle. She survived –       > during more than 35 years of apartheid – surveillance, threats,       > harassment, arrest and imprisonment, 491 days in solitary confinement       > and eight years in exile. The methods of torture used against her       > included, according to one account, denying her sanitary products so       > that she was found, in detention, covered in her own menstrual blood.       >        > I doubt the Daily Mail, recalling Madikizela-Mandela’s life this week       > as “blood-soaked”, appreciated the irony of this choice of phrase, nor       > that of judging her – rather than the apartheid regime she helped       > overthrow – the “bully”.       >        > Our ambivalence about apartheid is the elephant in the room. As a       > nation, one of our techniques for glossing over this uncomfortable       > fact has been overly beatifying Nelson Mandela, whose posthumous glory       > has always struck me as coming at the cost of forgetting the others.       > Who now remembers the names of Robert Sobukwe – the profound       > pan-Africanist whose medical treatment for fatal lung cancer was       > obstructed by the apartheid government, or Elias Motsoaledi, convicted       > at Rivonia alongside Mandela and not released from Robben Island until       > 26 years later.       > Winnie Mandela was loved and loathed, but she earned her place in       > history | Ralph Mathekga       > Read more       >        > We consider Nelson Mandela to be safe because of his message of       > forgiveness, because of truth and reconciliation, because he accepted       > the Nobel peace prize with apartheid-regime president FW de Klerk –       > decisions to which Madikizela-Mandela was fundamentally opposed. She       > was a radical until the end. Each rejection of that radicalism is an       > endorsement of the tyranny she fought against.       >        > But is it surprising that we endorse it? An endless litany of heroes       > were either architects of, or happy to take part in, the very       > apartheid Madikizela-Mandela sacrificed so much to help end. Among       > them are those at the centre of our current statue wars – Cecil       > Rhodes, Lord Kitchener, Jan Smuts – all immortalised on prominent       > plinths. It’s hard to resist the conclusion – comparing the fact that       > it’s these people whom we immortalise, and those such as       > Madikizela-Mandela whom we demonise – that we are still undecided       > about which side of history we, as a nation, are on.       >        > It doesn’t have to be this way. Denmark this week unveiled its first       > statue of a black woman. 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